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20 channels means the activation of the 20 channels medirians of human body. Meaning every inch of the body response and action at every movement.
In Chinese martial art, the 20 channels has to be fully activate and train, otherwise, one will have certain part of the body which is "dead" and drag instead of the whole body is alive.
6 directional force vectors means to fully able to handle the force/momentum in a 3 dimensional space ; one needs to be able to handle all the force vectors and its combination in the 3 dimensional space ; which consist of the 6 force/momentum vectors.
1,
pay attention to the following
Pay attention on how every part of the body support each others which is another way to tell if all the 20 channels are on.
Pay attention to the strike to see how it is not a linear straight line but occupied the 3 D space with different force pattern combination.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkqRwdbDeAM
2,
Now,
Pay attention to the two areas above ( 20 channels and 6DFV) in the following clip and see could this type of training handle the above #1 physical body and strike?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFMGQ...eature=related
If this type of training doesnt cover the basic handling of #1, then all the philosophy of center line, the shortest distance between two points is a straight line, secrete move.......etc are actually useless. Why? because at the very contact the #2 train structure and dynamic will collapse in that first contact like the tsunami hit a card board house. The rest theory and reason is non material disregard of how sound it is.
The #2 training is actually problematic and the most it turn on 10 channels instead of fully 20 channels on. not to mention in this clip there are others issue of the structure. ie. the performer is just using local joints to power his move. the body is not one piece.
So, how is the #2 suppose to be used in real life? Cant. because it is partial .
Wing Chun, Taiji and TCMA issues.
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Originally Posted by
Sihing73
Joy,
Perhaps you could expound on the channels and how to open them for the benefit of those of us who missed that part of class ;). I am unfamiliar with this approach, but perhaps I am thinking in different terms or maybe I don't know it at all. In any event, knowledge is never wasted so I would be open to learning more in a clear, understandable context.
I always thought and was taught that there were eight directions not six. Again, perhaps we are talking about two different things.
An honest inquiry with a desire to understand.
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Oh boy! Dave! It would take a long time to explain my understanding.Best shown.In any case-in my every day language-good martial motion includes blending ,according to a good art's guidelines, the human mechanical system(the skeletal and bone alignment), the electrical system (coordinated signals throughout the body), the chemical system(blood flow and oxygenization)
and proper energy usage(quietening the mind, focus etc), plus the equivalent of applied physics( balance, recovering balance, in tune with gravity, understanding the vectors-paths of forces, action-reaction-yin-yang etc). Great TCMAs do that. In good taiji standing stake works in a stable platform, silk reeling works with motion. In taiji the feet generally point forward. In wing chun-
there are the marvels of yee gee kim yeung ma for it's standing stake and chum kiu for the foundations of motion. Because of the differences in taiji's feet position and wing chun's feet position the role of the tailbone is somewhat different...for the energy to flow and for the structure to be stabilized... and usable.
Taiji works on timing and creative applications through push hands, wing chun through various kinds of chi sao. Good alignment of all the systems are important in both arts.Understanding of the role of the dan tien are important in both arts.
Because of the details of axial alignment, IMO wing chun when taught and learned properly is the more effective martial art-though top quality taiji is better than bad wing chun.
Chen taiji only has two major hand forms for the development of principles, Ip Man wing chun
has 3. Some other TCMAS needs and has many more forms to develop equivalencies...true for CLF, Hun Gar etc. Then some add on elements from elsewhere because what they practice lacks something or the other.
IMO one cannot learn good TCMA by watching videos and reading books. Just as many taichi in park practitioners don't have a clue to what taiji is about, chain store wing chun can miss the boat. In parallel fashion most yoga classes just deal with empty shells.
I was not going to comment but ina fraternal but brief way- I tried... in response to your suggestion.
Gotta run- please excuse typos.
Joy Chaudhuri