What in Wing Chun works the best?
...in all-out fighting/sparring against a skilled opponent? Not just your average streetfighter/brawler...and not against some guy with a year or two in whatever? art.
No.
Against people with real skills: boxing, wrestling, mma, karate, tkd, jiu jitsu, judo, sambo, muay thai, kickboxing, etc.
What in your experience works the best? In fact, here's another way to ask this:
If you had a "match" coming up with such a fighter from those disciplines listed above, and let's say he was skilled in at least one of the striking systems listed and at least one of the grappling systems listed...
What in wing chun would you be training the most for such an encounter?
What in wing chun would be on the list of things to really focus upon?
SLT ?
Chum kiu?
Bil Jee?
Wooden Dummy?
Chain punching?
The low front kick with the heel as the striking surface?
Pak as a block/parry?
Pak da (as simultaneous defense/offense)
Lop da?
Use of bong, garn, bil, bil/lop, gum, lan, tan as defensive and in some cases offensive jamming and structure/breaking and unbalancing moves?
What about the centerline principle would you focus upon?
The TWC Entry technique?
The TWC blindside strategy?
If yes, specifically what about the strategy would you be focusing upon?
Side (body) stance & related footowork?
Triangle stepping footwork?
How much chi sao would be part of your preparation?
Other chi sao/kiu sao related drills?
How much time spent on the forms?
How much time spent sparring?
Full contact?
Light contact?
Protective gear?
No gear?
Other things about wing chun not yet mentioned?
Some of the above, but not all of it?
If so, then what's on the list and what gets left off - and why?
Is there anything non-wing chun that you would try to include in your preparation?
If so, what?
AND FINALLY....
Suppose the guy you're going to all-out fight/spar is only skilled in a striking art - how would that change your preparation, if at all?
And the same for the other side of the coin: Suppose he was just trained in a grappling art?
Answers from Wong Shon Leung
I am not from WSL's line but very much respect WSL. Some samples of how WSL would answer some of these questions.
http://www.vingtsunupdate.com/index....d=44&Itemid=77
((Interview by Erle Montaigue- well known MA person from OZ. Includes comments by Barry Lee.
(based on WSL and barry Lee experiences))
http://www.vingtsunupdate.com/index....d=82&Itemid=76
((Interview with Daniel Poon of Qi Magazine))
These articles are from references on the net.
joy chaudhuri
Well I guess I gave the long answer to the question
earlier; but for a short answer, I basically agree with kung fu fighter. It's certain wing chun principles/concepts that work the best.
1) THE CENTERLINE - although I use a certain variation of it, especially from longer ranges...
2) SIMULTANEOUS BLOCK/PARRY + STRIKE - although this will not occur that often...
3) LOW KICKS - but this is no shock, as most fighters today do the same.
4) STRAIGHT LINE VERTICAL FIST STRIKING, BASED UPON THE SHORTEST-DISTANCE-BETWEEN-TWO-POINTS PRINCIPLE...but again, I personally adhere to this principle only at very close range. And I also see the necessity of using horizontally (and 45 degree-angled) thrown straight punches, ie.- jabs, stiff leads, and rear crosses; as well as hooks, overhands, uppercuts, etc. - all taken from boxing.
5) DON'T FIGHT FORCE WITH FORCE -as much as possible: parry, redirect, and avoid his strikes and his attempts to push, pull, etc.
But the long answer given earlier is just as important as paying attention to the principles, imo. The devil is always in the details, and I completely reject the idea that "wing chun is a concept based art, and not technique based." IT'S BOTH.
For example, if you can't apply (and don't know when to apply) tan, bong, lop, lop da, pak, pak da, garn, biu, lan, gum, etc. - then you're not really doing wing chun - you're simulating wing chun.
And if you don't understand the limitations of using tan, bong, lop, lop da, pak, pak da, garn, biu, lan, gum, etc. - then you're simulating being an efficient fighter here in 2009.