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According to this logic, Ip Man is wrong in all his publicised photos of him using his own wooden man?
That is a publicity shot Spencer. I asked the same question myself!!!!!
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And I am obviously wrong according to your view, but your idea of top arms pointing to 'centre chest' is just incorrect (from my own learning) because one arm will be at the right pectoral, the other will be almost at left shoulder height.
I didnt say center of the chest. The arms have to be roughly in line with your tits! If the dummy has been set correctly then you should be sitting in YJKYM and when you perform the first action (a punch) the elbow should make contact with inside of the corresponding arm somewhere at the end. this is why the angle between the arms and the height are important.
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Let me ask you a question Graham (if you want to be serious?) Do you strike the wooden man above the top arms? And what does that represent to you?
A punch or a chop!
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Having the arms at the height I suggest means I am drilling my fistwork (chongkuen) into the throat, not the chest or face. Only subtle difference, but I'm sure you will apreciate what I'm saying, being a fighter and all...
Its not a person! :rolleyes:
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You just can't help yourself can you?
Not where your concerned because you keep going on about this close relationship to Yip Man but I consider that to be wrong!
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According to what you're saying, your bongsau elbow position will be quite low (lower than the centre of the chest!) and open to attacks to your own throat and head, like a good right hook. It will work very well against your own, but y'know what I'm saying?!
You cannot perform a correct bong sau on the dummy just like some other actions because the dummy is fixed. You have to look at it in shades of grey not black and white. Unless you have been taught this you will not understand.
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Your lower wooden man arm will be pointing almost to your nuts (?) when mine is at the navel to solar plexus. As a test, I ask anyone to try this, press your upper arm into your own body then move your elbow into your centre line. How far does the elbow go? I'd say right into your solar plexus (unless you have extremely long upper arms or your back is folded over like a prawn!! lol!) That is our reasoning as the arm positions, whether you think so or not, are related to a human being!
Wrong!
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Again, these are just little differences that do cause arguments BUT I'm not concerned if you think my way is wrong because I know it works for me, just as you are not concerned about my opinion I would guess. I just see things as different, and I acknowledge that everybody has their own preferred methods, without trying to take a cheap shot or insult peoples teachers and his teacher/s.
Thats correct Spencer its "your" way! Originally there were not many versions of Ving Tsun. These many versions today have evloved from misinterpretation, lack of knowledge and by people who just make things up to fill in the gaps!
Whether you believe or not like it, that is the truth.
GH