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I don't really understand this type of Poon Sau. Different from what I train.
Sam Kwok had very poor elbow positioning, IMO, and hence the other guy was routinely able to extend his arm and hit. Kwok also had no bridge control when he was striking, so the other guy could strike him at the same time. Kwok also tried to use Pak Da, but with his Pak coming from under the other guy's arm... so the other guy simple struck him over the top. So no Yat Fook Yee in play.
Plus, Kwok's attacks were mostly cheap shots - over extended and from bad positioning. No distance control from footwork/stepping.
He was smiling and joking, but he looked uncomfortable throughout.
Well, I focused on Sam Kwok because he's the big name - I don't know anything about the other guy. But the unknown chap (unknown to me), looked better. And also showed far more control when striking. He was almost carefully placing his strikes in, whereas Sam Kwok appeared to be lashing out, hoping to get a hit.
In the UK, Sam Kwok is probably the most well known Wing Chun name. Lots of people teaching in the UK today learned from him, or from people who learned from him.
One of the many reason I believe Chi sao as is done today and typically is a waste of time.
I am the author/nobody and it was the promote the WC Brotherhood.
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We only only chi-saued for 1:30 so nothing more to add. Not sure what sound would give.
Any interest in joining?
Nick
Kwok Imho Is and always will be a joke. This is garbage what his perpetrating as Chi sao. which is very low level wristy chase hands not Cog stuff .Cheap shots cause his lost face mentality.. Oh please :D He should stop trying to portray himself as if his Ip man the second coming .(Donnie Yen ) look a like wannabe Take off his gown put on a white Tshirt and go sort out his basic understanding of Ving Tsun Kung fu ;) Guys like this have been getting away with this S**t for years Thank heavens we live in a age of the camera and Internet, were there's no more hiding place for these JOKERS :D
[QUOTE=GlennR;1275177]Video 1...... cheap shots from the big guy. Pretty bad really. Actually awful
Video 2. ..... One guy cant fight at all (helmet), Horgan is aggressive ,but boy, he is so open
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YUP agree-Sloppy wing chun-ners ae open for well timed lights out left hooks
Was only a minute, the 1st 30 secs repeats its self?? and looks as if there was going to be more then cuts off??
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A different fun chi sao:
http://youtu.be/6qDrtYnvSis
This is not the way Samuel Kwok Chi Sau
I have no idea what is happening here. But people that have trained with him, as you can see from the video, masters have chi sau with him and he does have good skills
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5nxL17RDxg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnHlLiYmVXA
One of the videos is GM Ip Ching doing chi sao with him. Its obviously you see what you want to see, say things without seeing the whole picture.
I have trained with many of his students, no one wants to get hit by him and we are all trying to hit him.
I assure you GM Ip Ching grants no quarter when you doing chi sao with him and I return from training with him in June few months back.
But hell, just go to HK or meet Samuel Kwok since he travels 10 out of 12 months. See if all the guys are just arm wrestling, slash slap boxing.
Not particularly inclined to seek out that which I find unimpressive or uninteresting. Y'all have fun though.