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Here is some very recently updated links to some footage that I'd really appreciate you comments on both negative and positive:

SanZhan Instructional:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIGQ_...ature=youtu.be

The demonstration shown here is from a Martial not "technical" perspective. In our school of White Crane Gongfu, it is felt that Yi or "Intention" and Shen fa or "Body-Feel" are far more important and or greater value than if your elbow is in or out slightly, whether you foot faces too much this way or that. We believe that in the heat of combative or life-protection situations these things matter the least. Body-Feel is to our way, the most important aspect one can develop!

White Crane Broadsword:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkmGHgw-R7w

White Crane Straight Sword:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xUcScMW8CM

White Crane Pole:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULtmCQ7aL0M

the weapons should reflect the style's structure and fighting concepts.
For example, SPM's poison snake staff looks like you are playing the hands, with a staff. The Butterfly knives show the intricacies of the hand articulations.
Another thing, I ususally look at the gim as a sugical instrument, utilizing finesse, and the dao more of a hacking,slicing, weapon. The gim should show evasive body movements while sugically striking blood vessels, tendons,organs. The dao should incorperate momentum, opening and closing of the structure to power the weapon.
The staff set should show the white crane elements as well. The basic twirling and striking don't seem to match up to the style's kuen faht.
Since Fukien Bak Hok P'ai holds many similarities to styles such as Wing Chun as well as the Hakka Kuen systems, perhaps you can look to those for additional information.

From my limited understanding, It seems that when your arms raise, you should still sink and swallow.Foa chum tun toe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrR3IWd_dY8

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Thanks Ten Tigers. Some good points!

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From my limited understanding, It seems that when your arms raise, you should still sink and swallow.

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It is my understanding that this relates more to the internal Expression / Intention than the outward physical appearance.

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Originally Posted by Minghequan

Thanks Ten Tigers. Some good points!

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It is my understanding that this relates more to the internal Expression / Intention than the outward physical appearance.

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It is both, but not so much the appearance, that would be simply skin and hair. To execute power of this type, there must be internal mechanisms working along with intention. The body sinks, the sacrum tucks, the stance is rooted, the dan tien draws in, while the body both expands outward, AND contracts inward. Rise fall swallow spit, all at the same time.
From looking at your execution, your rooot was compromised and your breath was not sunk to the dan tien. (Hei chum dan tien, yeu mah hop yat.) When you can integrate these, then you will have good structure.

Interesting. It's hard to understand "feel" by simply watching a vid but I welcome your intentions.

The difference between the "closed" and "opened" door methods is in the details (inches) i.e. the precise body structure and alignments. Therefore it begins with the Shou Fa which then requires even more precision (fraction of an inch) in the Shen Fa. Any defect in the Shou Fa is greatly magnified in the Shen Fa, which in the heat of the battle presents a skilled opponent with a huge target to exploit upon. It doesn't matter with an unskilled opponent as anything you use will work.

The expression shown is Large or Open Door. The form is done far more internally, less expansive more details than that shown here.

Wu He Dao Zhan Pai White Crane Gongfu is an internalization of three streams of Minghe (Calling Crane Boxing): Master Ruan Dong, my teacher Shifu Lucas Law (Huang Xing Xian Minghe) and Master Yu Dan Qui's wonderful rendition. We unlike so many others "out there" do not lay claim to be doing the "Exact Original (Whatever that may be!).

I agree with Ten Tigers. The weapon sets seem to be "off"- pieces of forms that are unrelated to Fujian White Crane.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I4rQv-U3n4

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Thanks for your comment guys.

The weapons forms are more aligned with taiji as they are with White Crane (following in the thought of Huang Xing Xian who freely admitted to mixing his Crane & Taiji). Not perfect I know but we are doing the best we can.

The SanZhan is our basic interpretation of SanZhan or Babulian with the movements somewhat exaggerated others can view. I am soon to film another rendition of this form which my teacher (Shifu Lucas Law who now lives in New Zealand) states:

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"The difference between the "closed" and "opened" door methods is in the details (inches) I.e. The precise body structure and alignments. Therefore it begins with the Shou Fa then requires even more precision (fraction of an inch) in the Shen Fa. Any defect in the Shou Fa is greatly magnified in the Shen Fa, which in the heat of the battle presents a skilled opponent with a huge target to exploit upon"

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Thanks again for your views!

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Thanks for your comment guys.

The weapons forms are more aligned with taiji as they are with White Crane

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um..wait, what??!!:eek:

sorry, I don't see any alignment, connection, similarity, etc with any style of Taiji.
Although it does bear a striking resemblance to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_weMn-N-rJ0

Tai Chi = Zhan Tong (1917- 2005) on to Shao Zhao-Ming ... Yang Taiji

(sigh..)
y'know, ya try to help...:rolleyes:

Its all made up - thats why it looks like it does not gel...

Zero dan tien in any of it....

"X-Spurts" are everywhere nowdays.

Can I see you guys in action? Can you post a vid of you guys doing a form?

So, you start a thread soliciting both positive and negative comments on your vids. TenTigers posted some critique and suggestion and then you get snooty about it. Sheesh, the internet. Either get some thicker skin or don't post vids. That simple.

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Originally Posted by Minghequan

"X-Spurts" are everywhere nowdays.

Can I see you guys in action? Can you post a vid of you guys doing a form?

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yeah. Check out my facebook for Rik Kellerman's Ten Tigers Kung-Fu Academy

Everytime I try to record something, the chi that surges from my dan tien wipes the hard drive/tape....

You know, like when a UFO is nearby

Such a burden...

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Seeking constructive views not outright rudeness but hey! I believe in being polite to others .... go figure?

Thanks for the idea (Rik Kellerman's Ten Tigers Kung-Fu Academy) will have a look when I get a chance!

Had a quick look ......... Interesting! Instructor Vid: Very static in movement, coccyx protuding to the rear in stance (leaning not straight) Front stance ...... Front leg not in line with ankle/foot but leaning back ... just a few quick observations ... only had a quick look. Student Vid, much the same as above although more fluid in exhibition!

Student Broadsword: Nice flow, Front stance feet almost in line with each other (Balance?), the same leaning in stance with the coccyx jutting back, seems just a little out of kilter?

Fight Vid: Interesting! The little guy goes! Wild swinging punches, same series of combinations (enter round kick, swing punches) ... maybe mix it up a bit? No real verifiable style witnessed. Both fighters have atrocious guard positions!

But hey! That's cool! We all have areas we can improve within!

Great looking web site!

Nobody saw that post coming :rolleyes:

Hey, I've got a few certificates in storage somewhere, I could send them to you to add to your wall collection. :p

Ten Tigers has learned real, functional martial arts from real, verifiable people. Minghequan, you should be ashamed of yourself for your statements and actions on here.

If you know about Hung Gar/Hung Kuen, how about telling us where you were exposed to it and who the person was that taught you? If not then you have no place telling anyone how it works or what was done correctly or incorrectly.

Ten Tigers - I took a look at your FB, Your kids look good and it looks like you have a nice program and a really nice school.

It's not easy...Keep up the great work, Props to you and your students.

How is it if I make a comment based upon pure Kinesiology, also known as human kinetics, is the scientific study of human movement it is wrong? i was not meaning any offence, just making some honest observations.

I may also ask how do you all know and have trained in Huang Xing Xian Baihequan to be able to make your own comments?

If you know about Huang Xing Xian Baihequan , how about telling us where you were exposed to it and who the person was that taught you? If not then you have no place telling anyone how it works or what was done correctly or incorrectly ...... can you see how this works?

He has just proven with his comments that he has no idea at all.

Thats what happens when you dont actually train directly under anyone and make up a white crane style from VCD's/DVD's.

This is from the same guy who trys to claim a connection with Ruan Dong the famous white crane stylist. Its still on his website.

My Master was back in Fuzhou in 2006 catchin up with some Ziranmen players and caught up with Master Ruan Dong by chance.

This was a while back but at the time he mentioned that Master Ruan may be coming out to Oz i.e. (my master was going to bring him out for seminars etc round oz)and was asking questions about Ron Gonnion aka Minghequan's activities.....not the sort of questions you would be asking if there was a healthy realtionship - lets put it that way. Like who is this guy :confused:

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If you know about Huang Xing Xian Baihequan , how about telling us where you were exposed to it and who the person was that taught you? If not then you have no place telling anyone how it works or what was done correctly or incorrectly ...

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Great idea for a post. I will let you start by answering your own questions quoted up above.

Beer anyone, popcorn, chips...:)

Who's got the remote, can someone press play..:(

Ruan Dong? ... Have that in writing from the man himself. Not for politicians though ... sorry.

My Shifu??? Sure, his name is Lucas Law and he is 4th Generation Huang Xing Xian Minghe. A Fuzhou Chinese, Shifu Law’s Grandfather was a White Crane Master from Fujian, China. As a Fuzhou, Minghequan is part of *Shifu Law’s heritage. Growing up in a town that was full of Martial Arts schools. His first exposure to Martial Arts was in primary school via the Southern Praying Mantis. *He went on to learn the Dragon & Tiger style (Sifu Ling Jook Pan), the Shaolin 18 Steps & Butterfly style (Sifu Ling Poh Sing ), Flying Crane, Xing Yi Quan & Ba Gua Zhang, Yang Tajiquan (Teacher Huang), Minghequan, Wu and Chen Taijiquan. *Shifu Law regards Teacher Huang Xing Xian as the most capable amongst all his teachers. Lives relatively close to me.

Blacktiger, Hualong, TenTigers .... Agenda much? How about your real names & backgrounds guys?

http://forum.kungfumagazine.com/foru...t=49015&page=3

There is no agenda - BS jumps out like dogs balls!

You can read the whole thread....

Or to cut to the chase head to page 3.

No need. Rubbish based upn the past!

I have stated in a direct answer to the question put to me here in this thread in this year 2013 & not 2007:

Ruan Dong? ... Have that in writing from the man himself. Not for politicians though ... sorry.

My Shifu??? Sure, his name is Lucas Law and he is 4th Generation Huang Xing Xian Minghe. A Fuzhou Chinese, Shifu Law’s Grandfather was a White Crane Master from Fujian, China. As a Fuzhou, Minghequan is part of *Shifu Law’s heritage. Growing up in a town that was full of Martial Arts schools. His first exposure to Martial Arts was in primary school via the Southern Praying Mantis. *He went on to learn the Dragon & Tiger style (Sifu Ling Jook Pan), the Shaolin 18 Steps & Butterfly style (Sifu Ling Poh Sing ), Flying Crane, Xing Yi Quan & Ba Gua Zhang, Yang Tajiquan (Teacher Huang), Minghequan, Wu and Chen Taijiquan. *Shifu Law regards Teacher Huang Xing Xian as the most capable amongst all his teachers. Lives relatively close to me.

Blacktiger, Hualong, TenTigers .... Agenda much? How about your real names & backgrounds guys?

Blacktiger, care to identify yourself, your style, who you studied with or study with???

If not, then please don't comment and remain hiding behind your Internet pseudonym.

Best wishes to you! Have a great day! :):D:)

From another thread:

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1. sharing - you express your opinion. You may not care about others opinions because you know that no matter what they may say, it won't change your mind..

2. discussion - Someone expresses his opinion, you ask question in order to understand his opinion better. You do care about others opinion because you may change your mind.

3. debating - You try to change others mind.

4. personal attack - It's about the person and not about the subject.

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http://theconversation.com/no-youre-...r-opinion-9978

Worth a read!