That means a lot to me Cody.
"What I am trying to express is that success is not had by just investing in loss in terms of the strategic retreating. How to say this. I think that many students spend years learning how to turn the waist just at the right time, etc. and all the leverage stuff, feeling there is something more, but not having a clue. I feel that such investing in loss can be a dead end situation for many. "
I stopped~ addressing the issue then going on to relevant issues in one breath. If something is questionable, they'll ask about it. This makes for the discussion. What you said above is very good and...just because a thing is mentioned does not mean that that was supposed to be the only thing. This thread was about an aspect of T'ai Chi Ch'uan. To ask about, "invest in loss" is not to say The whole of T'ai Chi Ch'uan is invest in loss, I won't study anything else. It merely looks at invest in loss. "Invest in loss" is coupled with "Push". One studys "invest in loss" for a good "Push". They go together.
I think that the big picture is presummed when some who know, bother to talk about the parts. Otherwise there is talking the whole Art at every question. So, some merely talk about what's being talked about. Some-Such.
Of course yours and every thought on the subject is insightful.
Very some such, perhaps might have been, likely say some, some not.