Bung Bu Comparisons (Seven Star, CCK TJPM, TJPM)
About seven years ago I began researching a few of the differences between the many versions of Bung Bu that I have seen.
Here is a small comparison on one small section of Bung Bu. Please feel free to add your comments! :)
WHF Seven Star Praying Mantis
Ascend Mountain, Left Thrust Palm
Ascend Mountain, Right Insert Strike
Vertical Leap, Seal Gathering Strike
Enter Ring, Right Fold Elbow
Enter Ring, Right Crushing Strike
At Back Kick, Double Turn Palms
Horse Stance, Double Seal Hands
CCK Tai Chi Praying Mantis
Ascend Mountain, Left Thrust Palm
Ascend Mountain, Right Insert Strike
Left Lift Knee, Right High Grab/Left Palm Strike
Right Lift Knee, Right Fold Elbow
Right Jade Ring, Right Crushing Strike
Twist Stance, Hang & Spear Hand
Horse Stance, Double Seal Hand
Tai Chi Praying Mantis
Seven Star, Right Nation Palm
Jade Ring, Right Carry Hand into a Punch
Right Twist Stance, Double Hook Grabs
Right Lift Knee, Right Coiling Elbow
Right Jade Ring, Right Crushing Strike
Twist Stance, Left Colliding Claw/Right Palm
Reverse Bow Stance, Double Seal Hands (Smoothly Drag Sheep)
Note that I used the Seven Star terminology through most of the comparisons unless I was aware of terminology used with the style that I described.
You may like these articles on Bung Bo
These were written by Professor Randy Choy of Honolulu. He studied under Sifu David Cheng who was one of Chiu Chuk Kai's disciples in Vietnam. Here are the links and some excerpts:
http://i-chuan.net/pages/Choy6.html
Quote:
Training in "Thrusting Foot Boxing" One of the most awesome hand forms of the Taiji praying Mantis Boxing system is the "Thrusting Foot Boxing" (Beng Bo), which consists of fifty-six postures. My students always want to know the secret of learning this very old boxing form. My answer is: you have to understand the twelve kinds of praying mantis fighting techniques which led to the creation of the form some 300 years ago from Mr. Wang Lang of the Northern Sung Dynasty.
So let's go through "Thrusting Foot Boxing" and I will give you examples of where these twelve fighting techniques are.
http://i-chuan.net/pages/Choy7.html
Quote:
In my martial arts classes, I instruct a number of qualified martial arts instructors. Their responses are beyond that of the average martial arts practitioner. It is because of their desire to learn more about Northern Praying Mantis boxing that I decided to share my knowledge to all of you in what to look for in analyzing a boxing form. Of course, you must show some caution: a little knowledge can be dangerous. So proceed slowly and remember, I'm not trying to sell you a martial arts form, but rather, I'm trying to direct you to the method and the way that I analyze a boxing form.
If you are a practitioner of Northern Praying Mantis Boxing, then this article might be of some particular interest to you. The first step I would go through is to review my last article, analyzing your boxing form's horse stances and basic footwork. See if Mr. Wang Lang's twelve fighting techniques of "Thrusting Foot Boxing" (Beng Bo) does apply in some way to your boxing form. So let's go through a few "Rules of Chuan." This is what I do when I learn a boxing form. After learning all of the movements in this form, I would create a mental image of what I'm practicing. Based on the "Rules of Chuan," there must be an entire list of fist, palm, and claw strikes. If your instructor did not supply you with a list, then you've got to list it down yourself.
Cui Shou Shan's quanpu for Beng Bu
Though this thread was started three years ago, I thought what I am about to add is most relevant here.
Xiaoyao (Will) has added the quanpu of the Cui Shoushan version (TJTLQ) of Beng Bu here:
http://www.monkeystealspeach.co.uk/q...-tang-lang.php
Great information Will!