Yeah, same guy and same group - Nacao Capoeira.
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Yeah, same guy and same group - Nacao Capoeira.
Cool! Thanks that is the video.
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Originally Posted by GunnedDownAtrocity
there goes my excuse for not being able to do that kind of stuff...that dude is hyuge.
Mostly right. R's aren't rolled in French though... you're thinking Spanish. R's are more of a hucking a lungy sound.Quote:
Originally Posted by splinter
Hey Seven how about posting a link to that site with the Techs. you were talking about?
ask and you shall receive...
http://www.urbanfreeflow.com/fundame...ndamentals.htm
They have some excellent articles on that site also.
You're right. I wasn't really sure how to describe it without giving the impression that it had that german throaty type of sound.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ford Prefect
Thanks for the links seven, It looks real good so far.
Maybe some one with a mike could make a simple audio recording of them selves saying "Le parkour" and post it for us? That should clear things up pretty well.
What does it mean anyway? Does it translate at all, to like "street ninja coolness" or some thing? And you thought the only good thing to come out of France were Canadians. ;)
By the way, I say it like
Lu as in Lure
Par as golf
Kour as in Quarry
is that even close to right?
the only thing i ever learned to say in french is "my name is"
Close. From the urban freeflow site:Quote:
Originally Posted by SanHeChuan
"In fact, the term ‘Parkour’ is perhaps indirectly attributable to Raymond Belle, who introduced his son to the military training methods of Georges Hebert, a man who had a powerful influence on the development of physical education in France, particularly in military circles, by creating the parcours du combattant; the obstacle course. From parcours, meaning ‘course’, came the altered Parkour, for which David acknowledges his friend Hubert Kounde as having coined.
The senior Belle had trained using Hebert's methode naturelle whilst in the French military. Hebert’s methods were inspired by the natural, physical conditioning of indigenous peoples from Africa in particular, and this is still noticeable in the practise of modern parkour; many practitioners talk of the importance of freeing one’s natural instincts, of stripping away conditioning and returning to an innate, effortless way of moving that utilises the entire body as a whole rather than consciously employing isolated muscle groups. The elusive ‘flow state’."
Aren't French Rs like non-Bavarian German Rs? Bavarians roll their Rs but outside of there it's like a gutteral R.
How much would it suck to mess up this jump and rack yourself on the way down :eek:
here is a link to a vid. where they say parkour
http://kousinetu.machibbs.net/log/log1480.htm
its kour and in coors light
^ I saw a bunch of link at that site. Which one was the video to which you were referring?
sorry it was this one
186 名前: sh 投稿日: 2004/10/20(水) 16:39:20 ID:DUccF.Vk [ ntiskw010080.iskw.nt.adsl.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp ]
PARKOURかYAMAKASI知ってる?
http://www.le-parkour.com/parkour.vd.wmv
Le Parkour is definately going to be a household word by this summer. I expect we will soon be seeing it on VH1 and MTV and probably a Pepsi commercial soon.
It's funny, already it has split into two camps-Urbanfreerunners and Le Parkour purists, who are already saying that the other guys have *******ized it by making it too much gymnastic-based. Already there are the Traditionalists vs the Mixed schools. Sound familiar?
You know, when I saw the first half of the video I was un impressed. My daughter (15) can do everything that guy can and make it look just as effortless.
Then i saw the second half whe they were doing it in the urban jungle and went "Woh!"
Scarry part, I showed my daughter, and she's wanting to do it now!!
And I still say this is proof that Monkeys actually evolved from us!
cool maybe she can give me some pointers :D
Of course she can, look at how long she's been doing gymnastics...
explain to ur daughter that the meaning of it is to just flow freely. all the tricks and difficult stuff is what u have to practise before using. the most basic form of this is just running around wherever u want. the more stuff u learn the more u can add in when ur flowing.
that way there's also gonna be a natural advancement.
I don't know if anyone is known with the art of Le Parkour here, but in my eyes it is also to be a martial art.
It is the art of escaping. It helps you to get out of a dangerous situation as fast as possible. So if you have an opponent in front of you that is to strong for you or who you don't want to fight, you can get away safely.
Instead of normal running you use your surroundings to escape. That means you will use your fastest and most efficient way to get out of there. You can overcome obstacle's like fences, walls, sometimes even buildings. That way your oponnent won't be able to keep up with you and thus you are safe.
I find this to be a martial art since you are using the ultimate defense, no fight at all. Furhter you also happen to improve mentally and phisically. You might feel safer, you increas your movability, you feel more one with this world, your resistance ( health ) improves.
Most chinese don't see a different in offering resistance against attacks from someone or against deseases. It is the same thing. At least that's what I learn in taiji. So with le parkour you also offer resistance since your mental and physical levels wil improve.
I hope the true form of le parkour ( no freerunning with the flips and stuff ) will stay underground and will be praticed by more people. It brightens up your life and will open you up for alot more same as with martial arts.
If you want to know more from this art don't believe everything you read about it, much websites give the wrong information because they think parkour and freerunning are the same. Freerunning is just different, it is more street stunting. Le parkour is the real escape technique and thus uses no flips since they would only slow you down and take much energy while escaping.
Some trustable websites:
English:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkour#History
http://www.pawa.fr/Welcome/welcome.html
http://parkour.net/modules/articles/item.php?itemid=2
Very good dutch forum:
www.dutchpk.nl
If you're interested in escape techniques like you see in parkour, try checking out genbukan or jinenkan ninpou taijutsu. ninjutsu is all about escaping and almost all the stuff you see in parkour can be found in ninpou as well. bujinkan is also ninpo but the quality of instruction is random.
In japanese, running up walls, trees or other objects is called 'shoten no jutsu'. Parkour rolls and breakfalls are called 'ukemi'. Jumps are called tobi. Parkour is a good way to train these techniques at a fluid pace.
There is NOBODY in any of the ninja orgs that can do anything like the Parkour crews can.
And taijutsu is just aiki-jujitsu, with much deleted.
hate to break it to ya but..Quote:
Originally Posted by paradoxbox
parkour isn't ''escape techniques'', and nimpo sucks :)
I'll take your bet, name a time and place ;) I'll put money on it that you suck :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kristoffer
What exactly could you call jumping over extremely large gaps between buildings, running up vertical surfaces to places that most people could not reach or rolling to avoid injury? Why do you think movements like these came to exist? It wasn't for looking cool on TV.
They most certainly are escape techniques. :)
And by the way- you obviously do not know anything of taijutsu, as taijutsu has almost nothing in common with aikijutsu. Leads me to wonder if you don't know anything about aikijutsu either. Even a beginner can spot the differences instantly.
There are more than a few ninpo instructors capable of the stuff you see in parkour demonstrations. Including jumping over high things, running up / across walls or trees, swinging on fences/bars gymnastics style, etc. Search on the net for shoten demonstrations, and next time don't jump to conclusions without knowing what you're talking about first, (or say another art sucks) dummie :)
I don't know if anyone is known with the art of "sitting on your couch" here, but in my eyes it is also to be a martial art.
It is the art of avoiding dangerous situations. It helps you to avoid a dangerous situation by not actually being there. So lets say there is a dangerous situation going on somewhere other than your couch. You are safely seated on your couch so you have in a nutshell "difused" the situation.
Instead of confronting or running from your potential attacker, you avoid your attacker all together. You are using the fastest and best way to get out of there by not being there in the first place.
I find this to be a martial art since you are using the ultimate defense, no fight, no confrontation and no potential injury. Unless you happen to fall asleep and roll off your couch. Further you also happen to improve mentally and phisically. Look at all of the great TV shows that teach you about history, fitness and countless other things. :D
Ah, the classic Virtual Tough-Guy bluff. YAWN.Quote:
Originally Posted by paradoxbox
Take aiki-jujutsu, add some limb strikes and drama, and voila, you have ninpo taijutsu. Never mind the "origin" arguement. Takamatsu was a big fat liar. Hatsumi took the lies to a new level, got really popular, and has all you genbukan/jinenkan guys scurrying to get a place on the stage. The 80's ended 16 years ago, and since that time people have learned to see "Ninpo" for what it really is- a game for the gullible.Quote:
And by the way- you obviously do not know anything of taijutsu, as taijutsu has almost nothing in common with aikijutsu. Leads me to wonder if you don't know anything about aikijutsu either. Even a beginner can spot the differences instantly.
Bull-scheit. Nobody's seen it done, and there are no demos on the net. The fact that most of the "high level" people in ninpo are over 50 may present a clue as to why. Oh wait, Ninja's don't show off :rolleyes:. You're a rube.Quote:
There are more than a few ninpo instructors capable of the stuff you see in parkour demonstrations. Including jumping over high things, running up / across walls or trees, swinging on fences/bars gymnastics style, etc. Search on the net for shoten demonstrations, and next time don't jump to conclusions without knowing what you're talking about first, (or say another art sucks) dummie :)
:)
I bow to your superior level of stupidity, you truely are a master. Can't find something on the net, mustn't exist then? Dimwit. You're straight from bullshido aren't you.
It's a good thing this board has an ignore button. You'll be my first addition to the list. I'm sure you're pretty familiar with people ignoring you, you're quite an obnoxious child. Grow up ya little twat. This site would be a hell of a lot better without trash like you undermining people trying to be helpful and informative. Bullshido will appreciate you a lot more than this place will.
......yawn
Or liars like yourself.Quote:
This site would be a hell of a lot better without trash like you undermining people trying to be helpful and informative.
You guys prove my point.
All the trash talking and adreniline pumping of a typical altercation but you guys are home safely sitting on your couches.
Another noch in the belt of "SittingOnMyCouchDo".
By the way, I have declared myself 10th dan in SittingOnMyCouchDo and am selling black belts for $99. PM me if you're interested. :D
There is nothing I say here I wouldn't say to ANYONE. I stand by what I said.
Ninpo is just Shingon/Mikkyo Buddhism. Ninjas have no special claim to it.
Taijutsu is Aiki-Jujutsu with some salt and pepper added.
Takamatsu was a liar.
There is not a single ninja alive that can do what David Belle can.
And paradoxbox is still a rube.
$99. For a black belt? Wow I would be intrested! Your serious right? Your not just ****ing with me? Now I could get all the hot chicks! :p
Ninjitsu is also the art of secrecy and deception...maybe they ALL can do it (even the white belts) but are so good they deceive you into thinking they cannot....
parkour is not a martial art. Can it be used for martial purposes? sure it can.
At some stage you gotta make a decision whether it is safer to stand and fight versus jumping across roof tops of buildings.
Personally, I carry a series of compressed gas powered grappling hooks made of carbon nanotubes woven with steel - very tough. That way I can zoom up buildings and swing myway across buildings. I'm thinking of having ninja stars but shaped like errrr bats because it strikes fear into the hearts of criminals. I shall call myself The Green Willow.
Parkour was never an ''escaping art''. Never. Sure you could use it for that today, but it was never intended as that from the beginning.
Nimpo does suck. And if you have videos of your famous masters doing anything even close to parkour I'll give you a cookie :)
All I see is some dopes riding the nuts of the true talents and hope anyone will be dumb enough to beleive the ninja crowd has a clue.
Oh and if u were serious, I'll be in Switzerland in march, the UK in may and probably China at the end of the year. Other than that you can find me in Stockholm.