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You only know whats a show hold because a video tape said so or some guy said so.
Once you takeout competition (even ones that allow strikes .. MMA), your stuck on faith. The only other option is to...

I can't agree and stress that enough. I believe at the end of the day allot more acceptance of catch exists, even when people will not say so openly out of respect for any particular style they...

its funny how someone who doesn't do any type of grappling , can be easily be identified when they try to make a opinion. If a heel hook is somehow going to save you every time ( and is of course...

great side stepping action going on here.. is that part of your triangle footwork? :eek::D

so you are saying you are a hooker? or you study the art of hooking?

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Are you just a fan or do you actually train under someone and compete in some type of real competition?

If we are...

If you are comparing what people called "gracie" JJ to what Josh and Erik are doing then you are off in another la la land. The Term Gracie JJ only exist if you train under a gracie.. then its Gracie...

That was my counter in my head (me playing devils advocate to myself) , and why I didn't continue the argument.

Erik and Josh are CSW and Josh more recently seems to say CSW more than catch. The...

ah ok.. so billy robinson competes currently? hmm no guess not..

Please let me know any top level grapplers even in mid level.. someone who steadily competes using just Catch that does already...

Catch doesn't really exist in a manner of speaking, its a dead folk style of wrestling (mostly).

The major practitioners do not participate on any form of competition, excluding one person I...