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  1. 300 is grossly exaggerated and for the record...

    300 is grossly exaggerated and for the record being a long time CLF practitioner like Jimbo, it has way too many forms LOL.
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    For some of us Siu Sup Gee is just a short...

    For some of us Siu Sup Gee is just a short version of Sup Gee Kow Da Kuen or what some could refer to as Dai Sup Gee. For others Siu Sup Gee is an entirely different set than Sup Gee Kow Da. Doing...
  3. Personally I think when the term "Fut Gar" is...

    Personally I think when the term "Fut Gar" is used with regard to CLF it really is referring to "Buddhist Family" and not necessarily the style "Fut Gar". Same goes with Choy - from Choy Fook. ...
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    Personally I think Fu Sheng looked great on film...

    Personally I think Fu Sheng looked great on film and he had a great stage presence but I think when he actually performs sets he was way too stiff. If you look at Lau Kar Leung's hung gar it has...
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    Fu Sheng had some CLF training. His wife,...

    Fu Sheng had some CLF training. His wife, Jenny's uncle was buk sing CLF and helped on the CLF Jai movie. I also heard he studied privately with some HK sifus.
  6. Just out of curiosity is Bing Chan the english...

    Just out of curiosity is Bing Chan the english way to write his name? Is it actually Chan Bing or was Bing his actual surname?
  7. Possibly try Wing Lam (wle.com) as I think his...

    Possibly try Wing Lam (wle.com) as I think his hung gar may have a set with this.
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    It's funny I recall reading that Tam Sam may have...

    It's funny I recall reading that Tam Sam may have learned Sheung Karp Dahn Tow Kwun but I can't recall ever seeing a buk sing version of the set. Just from the other branches only. Not saying that...
  9. So it wasn't his creation but rather something he...

    So it wasn't his creation but rather something he was taught? Is this something Futsan discovered or did you?
  10. Frank where did you find out about Cheung Yim...

    Frank where did you find out about Cheung Yim creating a drunken set? Seems odd he would create a drunken set then more odd that you say its not very drunken. I have always had my reservations...
  11. I think the 8 hand forms could be a bit of a...

    I think the 8 hand forms could be a bit of a legend because not all hung sing branches seem to have them; however names could have changed over time and forms could have been combined.
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    Yes I believe you are correct Lai Hung was also a...

    Yes I believe you are correct Lai Hung was also a BSL practioner in addition to BSCLF.
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    I have seen some buk sing schools do Tun Da but...

    I have seen some buk sing schools do Tun Da but not the other 4 but perhaps some do and I have just never seen it.
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    Actually similar then because "lai" can translate...

    Actually similar then because "lai" can translate to pull or stretch. Basically they loosely refer to stance and fist "warm ups".
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    Non futsan branches use the term Che Kuen for Ng...

    Non futsan branches use the term Che Kuen for Ng Lun Choy at least I know we do (LKH line). We also use Lai Ma for Ng Lun Ma. I recall Che Kuen refers to "practice the fist" whereas Lai Mai refers...
  16. Looks like the band got back together...:p

    Looks like the band got back together...:p
  17. You may have no agenda but you are kidding...

    You may have no agenda but you are kidding yourself if you don't think there are other hung sing people that have an agenda against the Chan Family. It goes both ways but its not one-sided.
  18. History is about pushing agendas nowadays.

    History is about pushing agendas nowadays.
  19. To say both sides don't have holes in their...

    To say both sides don't have holes in their stories is laughable at best, which is why I care little about history. I care that there is a CLF style that I practice and try to promote.
  20. The reason I don't believe is the reason I don't...

    The reason I don't believe is the reason I don't believe Choy Fook was Ching Cho...it's convenient. How convenient that all of a sudden Choy Fook is Ching Cho so this debunks the hung sing side...
  21. For me it's simply this: Chan Heung - Founder...

    For me it's simply this:

    Chan Heung - Founder of CLF
    Jeung Yim - Founder of Hung Sing branch
    Tam Sam - Founder of Buk Sing branch.

    The co-founder theory doesn't hold water for me becuase...
  22. My only problem with the Jeung Yim and Chan Heung...

    My only problem with the Jeung Yim and Chan Heung reunited angle is this...if they came back together and further developed the style what still the differences? The CLF from Chan Heung's line has...
  23. Not that I want to get into this mess but playing...

    Not that I want to get into this mess but playing devils advocate...why would you acknowledge Jeung Yim as co-founder to a style as you have said has nothing in common with Chan Heung's? You have...
  24. I am doing well. Just continuing to train hard...

    I am doing well. Just continuing to train hard and enjoy life.
  25. Wow just like old times. How have you been XJ? ...

    Wow just like old times. How have you been XJ? In the words of Michael Corleone..."just when I thought I was out they pull me back in!"
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