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"Master Ng Chan was a rigorous man of integrity and had never claimed supremacy on his skills to others. Furthermore, he never talked to others about the shortcomings on his peers. As...

I like this line how it's completely opposite of what Moshe has been saying about Ip Man not emphasizing chi sao according to hear say from his teacher..... unbelieveable!

"The students of Master...

Is Sifu Pun moshe's teacher? If so, all this nonsense from him makes a lot more sense!

How would you even know that Graham? And you could say the same thing about ho kam ming....

We train 50/50 but I can see the advantage of back leg distribution in application. I have a Si-Hing who I go pretty rough with from time to time in Gor Sau. Kicks, throws, the whole nine yards. ...

Completely agree with this statement. You should be able to ask your Sifu anything. Fong Sifu will answer questions you have to anyone, at any level, and will really try to make sure you...

good for you Joy that you analyse these posts the right way

anyway ,i just want to point out again friendly and without any polemic purpose that concerning the leung bik version or leung chan ......

I know that Fong Sifu has added a few things, as he has with all of the forms. But I know for a fact that he didn't take anything away from what Ho Kam Ming taught him.

Let's hear it moshe. Here's the Augustine Fong version of bue gee.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzfTqU_bIZg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Moshe I thought your system was that of what a woman could use. You're contradicting yourself by saying "the strength in the arms independently from the body"

True, ultimately the body does move as one unit and the subtitles are very difficult to see when in motion. But there are times when the body obviously moves first to the naked eye, like one of the...

From what I can tell it appears as if WSL moves his body first too.

Moshe, I'll be nice in return too:rolleyes:. One will have no structure if he gets deflected throwing the fist first. In our way, it doesn't matter if they see your body coming. What do you think...

Moshe I don't know what you mean by your comment?

I wasn't criticizing your translation chee. Just commenting on the subject from my perspective which is what a chat list is, right? I am thankful to you for the translation and appreciate the time...

It should be 'where the legs go the hands go, and the eyes remain on the center'....

One of the most important principles of the system IMO and what separates the majority of the lineages, however, the comparison to the dummy arms is disingenuous considering it largely depends on...

No, just sticking to the principles. You can have your own flavor but you can't violate the principles and then go and talk down to others.....

Ah yes, the infamous mystery student. I can tell you right now that whoever that guy was did not have years of training. Not with this school at least. All the old-timers that are any good are...

The question that always comes to my mind is, what is so unique about your idea? Or pb's idea, I guess, or even WSL's? You're confused because you mix your Chi Sao with getting the hit in above...

Your right, I do have a grudge against you Kevin. Something I didn't start. You brought it on yourself.

As far as naked goes. Yeah I can imagine that doesn't feel good. Don't have a problem...

Against you, most people here hold a grudge Kevin.

Joy is just sharing his insight and observations. Your the one who linked the similarities to ng Chan to your own.....

Personally I haven't...

Gotcha, that makes more sense, Thanks Chee

Anyone, including MOSHE, have any ideas on what he's trying to say here?

I think what he's talking about is how you know in the lop sau exercises where you can bounce your punch off a bong to your advantage. One type of bong sau application. But then there's the type,...