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  1. Thread: The Pole

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    Should the pot call the kettle black, Spencer? ...

    Should the pot call the kettle black, Spencer? Crossing poles can be fun in an exchange.

    Throwing down your weapon shows no finesse, especially when you complete a set.

    Many WCK people don't...
  2. Thread: The Pole

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    I prefer to call my WCK pole the Ji Ng Gwun...

    I prefer to call my WCK pole the Ji Ng Gwun (12:00 Pole), rather than Luk Dim Boon Gwun (6:30 pole). :)

    Some WCK pole players do need some viagra. :)
  3. Thread: The Pole

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    When you throw the pole down, it is considered...

    When you throw the pole down, it is considered bad form and taste in martial society. :eek:

    Spencer, next time I'm in UK, you can cross staffs with me. I'm sure we will have fun with the pole. ...
  4. Thread: The Pole

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    Looks more like Yip Chun's pole. Yip Ching's...

    Looks more like Yip Chun's pole. Yip Ching's pole is different...

    IMO, this set was played with a lot of local arm power. The thrusting could be more precise. Maybe a bad day.
  5. Thread: The Pole

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    WCK is defined as simple, direct, economical...

    WCK is defined as simple, direct, economical movement in the moment. If you do that, its WCK; if not, it's not. Is that the function of Lee Shing's half point? It seems like you stay on the line...
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    Lee Shing's use of the pole is unlike any other -...

    Lee Shing's use of the pole is unlike any other - from where does this double end method stem from?
  7. Thread: The Pole

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    Ah, here comes JPinz! More SOP/MO! :) What is...

    Ah, here comes JPinz! More SOP/MO! :)

    What is so threatening about what Terence says? You can easily put him on ignore or not read his comments. He comments directly and laughs at you guys...
    ...
  8. Thread: The Pole

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    Andrew, Tony is very simple. If Terence says...

    Andrew,

    Tony is very simple. If Terence says anything about HFY (see for example the other post on where Terence is ridiculing their claims against MMA fighters at...
  9. Thread: The Pole

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    Tony, More blah, blah, blah. I realize this...

    Tony,

    More blah, blah, blah. I realize this is your job.

    Phil and I always have civil discussion without bringing in any fantasy emotional baggage. Actually, Phil and I go way back in NYC -...
  10. Thread: The Pole

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    In college, one has many teachers, in Masters...

    In college, one has many teachers, in Masters programs, you have many teachers and in Doctorate programs you have many teachers.

    There is no big deal in learning more. Who you say your "sifu" is...
  11. Thread: The Pole

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    Spencer, Strange? I find that you're...

    Spencer,

    Strange? I find that you're strange... :confused: ... maybe you need to see more of the world.

    Perhaps if you learned from other systems and other teachers, you'd know that what I...
  12. Thread: The Pole

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    Real stuff is real simple. What I said...

    Real stuff is real simple.

    What I said speaks volumes. Notice I did not say you block or stick first?

    You strike or stab, the opponent moves, and then its over (ideally).

    Musashi did...
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    Jim, I will try to answer as best I can.. ...

    Jim,

    I will try to answer as best I can..




    Spear is Northern, but when it went down to the South, they took off the spear head and played with the staff.
  14. Thread: The Pole

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    Sorry guys, but I do see patients and it gets...

    Sorry guys, but I do see patients and it gets busy. The pole follows WCK's ideas. You have a Mun Gwun (Asking pole) - it is a strike or a stab. Then you follow up with multiple strikes.
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    Today's heavy hardwood pole is too heavy and a...

    Today's heavy hardwood pole is too heavy and a good training implement. But in actuality, Southern pole practitioners fought with the Shangdong white wax wood poles, which were lacquered or treated...
  16. Thread: The Pole

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    Looks like Tapado: ...

    Looks like Tapado:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd_A6tDBIzg
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    This one is pretty cool, too. ...

    This one is pretty cool, too.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eI2Ef7sH8c&NR=1

    Old time FMA guys used it during WWII...
  18. Thread: The Pole

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    Those are some good observations. Yes, polework...

    Those are some good observations. Yes, polework is modified and blunted spear work.
  19. Thread: The Pole

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    I don't know if I have seen any "real set"... I...

    I don't know if I have seen any "real set"... I learned the pole set from Rick Spain, one of Cheung Sifu's top students in Australia. I'd say that was pretty real. The only minor criticism is that...
  20. Thread: The Pole

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    When I learneed the Gu Lao pole as taught to me...

    When I learneed the Gu Lao pole as taught to me by my sifu, he basically had me learn all the points in a separate manner and then it was taught in combination. Much like how Escrima is taught. We...
  21. Thread: The Pole

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    The legends are the single head staff is a spear...

    The legends are the single head staff is a spear without the point and the tactics resemble the spear. Tan Gwun is equal to the Lan of the spear, Fuk is equal to the Na of the spear and Biu Gwun is...
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    Since the single head staff came from the spear,...

    Since the single head staff came from the spear, I thought some of you would want to see the spear. Since I studied Hung Gar, Lama and a smattering of CLF, I can offer you some insights. Spear uses...
  23. Thread: The Pole

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    Personally, I feel the name "Luk Dim Boon Gwun"...

    Personally, I feel the name "Luk Dim Boon Gwun" is misleading.

    Everyone is always wondering what the half point is.

    Some consider it the thrust, others consider it the butt. IMO, I consider it...
  24. Thread: The Pole

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    Having seen Leung Ting's 6.5 point pole set, I...

    Having seen Leung Ting's 6.5 point pole set, I would say its very much the same as WSL's or Chu Shang Tin's set. He does use a different set of 6.5 keywords:
    Cheung, Kam, Tiu, But, Chou, Tan, Boon...
  25. Thread: The Pole

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    Spencer, This might be more your speed. They...

    Spencer,

    This might be more your speed. They say WCK, but it seems more like a Siu Lam 6.5 pole. Notice some of the flowery motions. :)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivcN7OgqASE

    Spencer,...
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