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    Just a slight correction on #1: Common dating on...

    Just a slight correction on #1:
    Common dating on the Buddha put his date later than the 6th century BCE.
    To borrow a quote from wiki:

    Other dates proposed are around 486-483 BCE.

    But you're...
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    actually i'm not sure that your observation is...

    actually i'm not sure that your observation is correct.
    in the agamas & pali suttas the Buddha gave clear advice on how to work hard to be successful and how to not be parted with one's wealth.
    he...
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    You should check out that book I listed. The...

    You should check out that book I listed.
    The topic deserves a much more in depth treatment than I can possibly give here.
    A lot of what we know today as "Hinduism" is a rather late invention....
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    Don't know if you've read it already or not, but...

    Don't know if you've read it already or not, but Johannes Bronkhorst has a really good book on the interaction between Brahmanic Hinduism and the spiritual practices of Greater Magadha, it tackles a...
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    The mural itself is not that old, only 18th...

    The mural itself is not that old, only 18th century or so. the other arts u mention are supplementary. the founder was in shaolin as of 1928, which is 16 years after the fall of the qing dynasty and...
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    yeah i agree with you on a lot of that. my point...

    yeah i agree with you on a lot of that.
    my point was to display a school based almost entirely on interpretation of the techniques displayed in the Shaolin mural.
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    for what it's worth i have an old martial arts...

    for what it's worth i have an old martial arts documentary that says that some Japanese Shorinji guys studied the mural, reverse engineered it, and made a style of it.
    Couldn't find a youtube clip...
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    Nice Dhammapada quote by the way, I love that...

    Nice Dhammapada quote by the way, I love that book.

    If nobody minds, I'll add my own opinion to this point, as it seems I haven't been very on-topic for most of this thread and I'm dying to...
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    Think I'm starting to understand how it all fits...

    Think I'm starting to understand how it all fits together (re Yogacara & Tibetan).
    I also study with a Lam Rim group and have dabbled quite a bit in Tibetan Gelug tradition.
    Came to the conclusion...
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    Wasn't aware of that, cool. :) Probably need to...

    Wasn't aware of that, cool. :) Probably need to read more Asanga & Vasubandhu.



    Interestingly, I've run into people online that deny that phenomenal emptiness appears in the Pali. I provided at...
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    Something about the term "Pali Cannon" just...

    Something about the term "Pali Cannon" just really bugs me.
    I think I've just run into too many hard-line Theravadans who bash anything they don't consider "orthodox," too many Westerners stressing...
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