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True... ;)

"Wow, you guys read ALOT of books!! How do you have time to get anything more than the outside shell of them?"

Most people don't ;) Reading a book on medicine doesn't make one a doctor... of...

Wouldn't be too bad... it'd give you a chance to wear the old karate gi again, break out the good ole Shaolin numbchucks and bo staff katas... and you might even be able to con a couple of your...

kwaichang... this is 2005 ;) 2 more years and he'll be qualified to be Shaolin grandmaster :D

Their sparring in competition is basically karate continuous point sparring (like Master Killer said). Much more restrictive than San Shou/San Da, Muay Thai, Kuoshu San Shou, the various "NHB"...

Yes, body movement is necesary to produce the desired energy.


In your obviously biased opinion of course ;)


Anything can be argued :p


Nothing's been proven. You're angry that people...

And this is where the arguement kind of becomes pointless on the internet. People who haven't seen a lot of real xingyi and practiced some themselves with a qualified teacher are going to have a...

Your duck analogy completely misses the point. Is chang quan still chang quan if I practice it with a hung gar body method? It's the same reason modern wushu nan quan usually isn't "real" southern...

It's not that hard to find books, etc. with 5-10 forms in them... and not all forms have to be coppied from books. Forms in book form are have been around for many many years. Also people have been...

Have you checked out http://www.emptyflower.com yet?

I've never seen any of McNiels stuff... haven't seen SD Xingyi other than that one video I used to have either, so I can't really comment. One of my sifu's main teachers was Li Tian Ji, so I can...

The main difference in the make up of the form itself that I saw was that there were some extra movements added in like some stationary chain punches at the end of a beng quan and extra little...

What's his brother teach?

I tried, but strangely, none of the libraries in our centeral Ohio library system stock any of the Guiness World Record books. This conspiracy may be much more widspread than you think ;)

Back to the xingyi form for a second...

If I remember correctly, it's a slightly modified legit xingyi form itself but done in a very "un-xingyi" like manner. I think, externally, it's nearly...

Doing something poorly doesn't automatically make it "karate".

I see everyones points, but does teaching another style really badly classify it as a style on its own? From what I've observed the different styles that they teach are supposed to have their own...

Can Shaolin-Do really be called a style or system? It's an organization claiming to teach many different styles/systems. I just think people should stop calling Shaolin-Do a style. Anyway, that's...

Like who(that's been successful?)? The only one I can think of is Wu Bin (the old Beijing wushu team head coach) but he still called in VERY experienced masters to do the actual teaching.

Just thought I'd go back to the college analogy for a second, and say why I don't like it and don't think it's valid when it comes to martial arts.

First of all, to get a "4 year degree" still...

Well, it certainly doesn't belong in this thread "smart guy", unless you're planning on making an arguement that Shaolin-Do as an organization somehow condones this. If you're trying to imply...

Should've been in a seperate thread then.

None of my classmates, coaches, or myself have ever had any kidney or similar internal injurey from not wearing a sash. None of the modern wushu athletes in China wear sashes either(except as...

I don't think it's going to happen... that rumor seems pretty old :P

Why in the world would he have to learn them word for word and recite in two languages? Your really not making a lot of sense. It takes me about 30 minutes to memorize a medium length form. I...