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    This is a video I found on how to make cheap...

    This is a video I found on how to make cheap padding for a mook jong. It's embedded in the guy's blog and I can't pull out the URL from my phone. If anyone can feel free to repost the video only.
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    Isolating an area of combat is not a problem...

    Isolating an area of combat is not a problem boxing and judo are effective when integrated into freer rulesets. Wrestling does the same thing. They're all very effective in more open ruleset.

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    ^^This You want to defend hands, defend...

    ^^This

    You want to defend hands, defend against the boxer. You want to defend kicks, knees, and clinch, defend against Muay Thai. You want to defend takedowns, defend against the wrestler. You...
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    Except who was doing well and winning back then?...

    Except who was doing well and winning back then? Bjj guys, wrestlers, Thai boxers, kickboxers, shootfighters, free fighters. No TCMA guys at the top back then.
    The revenge fantasy thing you're...
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    and funny enough in fighting competitions when...

    and funny enough in fighting competitions when there were less or practically no rules the same kind of fighting dominated.
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    How many times must I repeat this... mma is a...

    How many times must I repeat this... mma is a ruleset, not a fighting style

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    Wing chun isn't the only art I train in
    Chi Sao is a drill just like clinch drills in muay Thai or...
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    Actually sanda is very good. It's a very modern...

    Actually sanda is very good. It's a very modern martial art and I love the way they blend the takedowns into the striking.

    What I said was if the TCMAs can win in open full contact rulesets...
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    A TCMAer to win who doesn't train sanda or...

    A TCMAer to win who doesn't train sanda or kickboxing and who doesn't win by kickboxing.
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    Well for the wing chun I train it's a matter of...

    Well for the wing chun I train it's a matter of careful progression through the drills at each level getting more and more resistant; working the chi sao so the techniques can be applied from the...
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    Actually Shuai Jiao is probably the only TCMA I...

    Actually Shuai Jiao is probably the only TCMA I think has 100% valid application in its field which is wrestling for takedowns from the clinch. It would need to be supplemented by some very good...
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    But until they start winning by fighting like...

    But until they start winning by fighting like something other than kickboxing when they started in a TCMA, then folks will always say that they're kickboxing because that's exactly what they're...
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    No I believe that fighting in the most open...

    No I believe that fighting in the most open ruleset available, in a full contact environment, against skilled resistant opponents is the best test of one's art and one's skills. The folks who were...
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    Again the argument of whether those we...

    Again the argument of whether those we traditional or not is a different subject entirely but how folks are quoting people who trained non-TCMA as somehow a good thing for TCMA is beyond me.

    Oh...
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    The tan sao is not meant to block all of the...

    The tan sao is not meant to block all of the force against a round punch. You have to step off line. A strong swing will collapse a biu just the same as a tan if you don't.
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    They're gendai budo, not koryu. ...

    They're gendai budo, not koryu.




    Kajukenbo is from Hawaii and is a fairly recent mix of several martial arts. Shotokan is genda budo not koryu. The jujitsu would depend on the ryu as to...
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    Judo is progressive and so is aikido. They are...

    Judo is progressive and so is aikido. They are not considered traditional as they are not koryu.
    Kajukenbo is a mix of styles and considered one of the founding influences of MMA.
    Shotokan is...
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    I meant "even you" as meaning you as opposed to...

    I meant "even you" as meaning you as opposed to the other participants in the discussion. No insult intended.
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    But that's the point though. YKW was describing...

    But that's the point though. YKW was describing it as a counter to the plum such that the Thai boxer stopped using it and even you can see that's ridiculous.
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    Actually in one fight I did see someone use the...

    Actually in one fight I did see someone use the technique to KO an opponent where you step up on the opponent's thigh and slam an elbow straight down into the top of the head. It's textbook Muay...
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    Nope but muay Thai is a relatively recent...

    Nope but muay Thai is a relatively recent development compared to its origin in Muay Boran. Muay Boran is traditional and they dont use modn training or equipment while Muay Thai is modern and...
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    As I said before a proper hook is at a closer...

    As I said before a proper hook is at a closer range than a WC straight punch and if you've allowed someone that close you've screwed up big time.
    So the answer to a proper hook is to keep them...
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    I'm saying it's a confounding variable as is any...

    I'm saying it's a confounding variable as is any kickboxing training. For example Thai pads, focus mitts, boxing gloves, etc haven't exactly used used in TCMA before the last few decades. I wouldn't...
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    Actually personally I'm very fond of Sanda's...

    Actually personally I'm very fond of Sanda's ruleset allowing takedowns. I'd love it if we could have one rule format to encompass sanda, kickboxing, and muay Thai. Essentially have muay Thai rules...
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    Kinda one of the points I was making with regard...

    Kinda one of the points I was making with regard to sanda.
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    Krav actually takes a lot of what is effective in...

    Krav actually takes a lot of what is effective in nhb and mma and makes use of it. And the military version has seen effective use but in comparatively few instances. The civilian version is almost...
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