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    Um, pretty much every MT, MMA instructor i have...

    Um, pretty much every MT, MMA instructor i have heard of takes a front face stance with the lead shoulder raised slightly. Also, wrestlers are largely front facing even when applied to MMA. BJJ...
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    Why no stepping side kicks if they allow side...

    Why no stepping side kicks if they allow side kicks? Also, is it no hooks are allowed or just that it is no wild out-of-control haymakers?

    But i would like to see roundhouse kicks be allowed as...
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    Can you translate more about what happened and...

    Can you translate more about what happened and what the demo was supposed to be. I'm thinking things didn't go as planned here. Curious as to what Leung Ting said to the audience after the chi sau...
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    Chi Sau Demo: WT vs VT/WC?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruY9rHueaso

    Can someone translate this? I'm curious to know what is being said and what transpired. Leung Ting's brother is apparently the technician. Who is the...
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    Bad muay thai clinch work? Well, to be fair, he...

    Bad muay thai clinch work? Well, to be fair, he IS show how to do it out of chi sao.





    *just kidding*
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    Or why not just use BJJ principles on the ground...

    Or why not just use BJJ principles on the ground and WC principles standing up? Hell, doesn't even need to be BJJ. Try catch wrestling if you can find a good instructor. Why is there this need to...
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    Actually, it pains me to disagree with Dale as...

    Actually, it pains me to disagree with Dale as he's usually correct in his notion/opinion/expertise that WC and BJJ have nothing to do with each other, but a Lop Sau, by definition, means controlling...
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    [QUOTE=Vajramusti;1015274] Who? Where?

    Who? Where?



    Yes. There is a belted (sashed) level of progression. SNT techniques, then CK, then BT (which is guarded in some organizations as being too deadly to teach openly i.e. LT's) then...
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    Point. The vid did show that his record was 14-0....

    Point. The vid did show that his record was 14-0. But is that verified? Where his wins in that organization that put on the show or another? If he has 14 wins why is there no clip of his other...
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    Cause it cant be good WC if it failed so...

    Cause it cant be good WC if it failed so epically.




    Which exists where? Oh yeah, that film is located in the same library as the location of Jimmy Hoffa, Area 51 crash photos, and proof that...
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    But before that will come the commercialization...

    But before that will come the commercialization phase. Merchandising, merchandising, where the real money from Wing Chun is made. Wing Chun the T-shirt. Wing Chun, the lunchbox. Wing Chun the...
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    Dogma. No one is trying to evolve the...

    Dogma.

    No one is trying to evolve the system. No one is testing it. The curriculum is standardized. LT has his own (even trademarked/copywrited). Cheung has his own. Moy yat has his. WSL...
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    I agree, although there are still some gyms to be...

    I agree, although there are still some gyms to be weary about. They'll toss any street fighter they can find in an octagon with 6 months of training. I largely disagree with that just so the gym...
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    Curious why people via MMA as a common enemy? I...

    Curious why people via MMA as a common enemy? I know there are a lot of MMA gyms and MMA people that are kind of meat-heads and not the type of people you might want to associate with much less...
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    My former instructor was of the LT lineage and...

    My former instructor was of the LT lineage and had a background in VT. He gave up the entire system for MMA with some dog brothers cause he couldnt stand the politics of WC/WT. Encouraged me to do...
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    No. Actually BJJ is continuously evolving...

    No. Actually BJJ is continuously evolving because of the sport and the competitions. People are putting on new DVD's with new submissions and specializing on techniques from new positions (rubber...
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    Um. No. BJJ is not a bottom game. It is a game...

    Um. No. BJJ is not a bottom game. It is a game of position no matter where you are.

    a.) Establish position
    b.) Establish hand control
    c.) Work your game (i.e. Submission, or striking)
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    Sorry, normally i agree with most of your posts,...

    Sorry, normally i agree with most of your posts, opinions etc. however, all martial arts that gain popularity (especially in the US) fall victim to this eventually....
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    Thanks Bas!! Variation by KenFlo:...

    Thanks Bas!!



    Variation by KenFlo:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_3N0gckHqk
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    A former instructor answered this very nicely for...

    A former instructor answered this very nicely for me. You only have two legs so there is always a weak point in any stance, and at some point, someone will get in between and uproot the two...
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    Obviously you have studied some WCK and found it...

    Obviously you have studied some WCK and found it to be flawed. I did also, but let me express what I got out of the stance.

    1.Mobility
    The stance is designed so you can "pinch" the ground with...
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    MMA isnt the "best way". Traditional Martial...

    MMA isnt the "best way". Traditional Martial artists think like this.
    ex:
    WC is the best way.
    FMA is the best way.

    MMA just trains according to what works for each individual. (i.e the...
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    So stop learning WC and go learn MMA/Judo/BJJ and...

    So stop learning WC and go learn MMA/Judo/BJJ and see how they do grabs "forged in the fire of competition". Cause you wont get that from WC. i learned so WC, and then left to go do some MMA for a...
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    Excellent point about adrenaline dump in a real...

    Excellent point about adrenaline dump in a real fight. I think that a lot of techniques in WC/VT/WT are valid and will work in such an adrenaline dump but the students never test them so it just...
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    Yes, but this is still closer to an actual street...

    Yes, but this is still closer to an actual street fight then fantasy larping that i see from most of the other WC/VT/WTvids on youtube. Good for them for learning to take a hit and how to deal with...
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