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thanks Scott and Hendrik - both great posts to which I'd like to respond given some time to do so;

wonder if Dave is wishing he'd not dipped his toe in the river here? J/K Dave - but now it's time...

thank you for your reply David: you have bravely picked up my thrown gauntlet, LOL;


I would suggest that according to sources in both traditions that "enlightenment" is eminently practical!

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please describe what you mean by "true enlightenment" and how so-called Embryonic Breathing is the "key" to attaining this;