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sorry, but i cannot open the vid clips from the cimande site.
i saw the first clip from the link u gave, (muslim dude) - it's ok, but he...

william sanders took silat and combined it with aleister crowley / o.t.o. (ordo templi orientis) stuff. - hence the use of the spelling, "magick", rather than the conventional "magic".

do u think...