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Ok, I finally had some time to come back. So, Scott, you asked me a couple of questions that actually really touch on the primary focus of my practice for the past year or so. I will just go ahead...

Boy this topic really took off. On that note combined with the title of the thread, Paz, I suggest you reconsider whether there is need to speculate.

As for my comment about what preceded...

This may or may not be true; I am somewhat impartial as to who owns the IP here. However, you cannot say for certain. The source for "yogic practice", as I mean it here, is a Hindu text which...

Fascinating. Does anyone have any dates on the oldest known written occurrence of the
My hunch is that it probably started with Chan or more abstractly when the yogic practice met with Chinese...

I thought it would boil down to something like that. The translation of gongfu I normally come across is simply a man doing work. Given what you are saying, however, is it reasonable to assert that...

More specifically form. Is it a coincidence that the written word looks like a derivative of the words "ren" and "tian"?

David,

I've been reluctant to mention this text as it would have led me to a long tangent about the meaning of the Vajra, but it is exciting as hell that someone referred to it.

The two most...

Pork Chop,

This is an area of interest for me as well, although it is a lot harder to pin down these sorts of practices and their origins in Taoism. What I will say is that the martial arts...

Paz,

I have heard this before, and i understand why people (in particular Buddhists) feel this way.

The problem is that there is no real certainty regarding when the relevant Yogic principles...

Scott,

I was referring to the source you listed; "The Record of the Buddhist Monasteries of Luoyang". The excerpt, when examined in the context of time and geography, is more likely the...

The first thing I would really like to address and that is the discrepancy of Bodhidharma being from Persia.

By no account, historical or otherwise, is this factual. The historical account linking...