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Can't disagree with European boxer. Boxing is one of the most effective thing to do when it comes to effective techniques and it will get you there fast. Because they actually fight from the word go....

Cat,

I think you have to be realistic here. You cannot handle bullies by just focussing on the spiritual side of things. I believe the spirit side of things come only after much hard physical work...

I believe that forms should not be taught to beginners. From the word go sparring drills should be worked on. It is only when a practitioner has gained enough experience of applied techniques that...

Its interesting to note that lineage is so important to many CMA. Questions like where does your sam chien come from is often an interesting point of debate. I too have often pondered about this. In...

Sui,
I suppose Chong Bing Lim has the true principle of pakmi as Chong Li Chun was not able to behead him, it must have been the other way round. So was Chong Bing Sim or Chong Bing Fat beheaded by...

joedoe, I don't think I know you as I did not have the chance of meeting James during my short stay in Sydney back in the mid to late 80s. I live in Malaysia now but do frequent to Perth often, have...

joedoe: Actually I know your teacher's father, Chee Kim Tong. But I know that Chee Kim Tong has a son teaching in Sydney. Chee Kim Tong is one of the most talented martial artist I have ever met.

I see in your profile that you are a Wu Chu practitioner from Sydney. Is your teacher a Mr Chee from Malaysia??

Is this the sifu Andy Truong that has the Wah Nam website? If it is then it occured to me that I might know his sifu, Chau Phu way back when I was in the import business in Sydney. I used to supply...

Chu Gar Gao of the teochew people?? This is the first that I have heard of that. I have always thought that Chu Gar Gao was the domain of the hakka people. But thinking again its not surprising as...

The origins of kung fu are shrouded in mystery. The legendary Pak Mei according to some cannot be traced to any real person. What was his real name?? So far I have not heard of anyone that can come...

Sarm Bo Tui is in fact very similar or the same as Jik Bo, its based on the core techniques of finger jab, punch and palm pushing together with bridging movements. So I would tend to say that the...

Extrajosph mentioned that Chu Gar Gao is popular in the Mui Yuan (Moi Yen in hakka) area. Also fiercest tiger mentioned that Chong Li Chun learnt some SPM. I have heard from some Chu Gar elders from...

I think Kwangsai jook lum tong long is a hakka (guest) art and is not supposed to be native of Kwangsai. Kwangsai being one of the main areas of hakka population. Its just like Waichow is in...

Shaolin :)

The noble one riding an elephant,
absorbed in the chanting of the sutras.
With the heart of benefiting all sentien beings,
Eyes mindfull of the four corners of samsara.

Shaolinmaster

You seem very knowledgeable about the arts of Sek Gok Sum. Its good to know that there are still inheritors of the rare arts of Sek Gok Sum. Thanks for the regards but my grandfather...

My grandfather being a Chu Gar practitioner did learn a portion of the Sek Gok Sum's Lohan fist in Indonesia. Apparently his 18 Lohan fist is very extensive and has a portion that is very close to...

I think they are the 18 Lohan techniques. I do not practise those techniques but do know that the some martial artist in Indonesia still talk about Sik Ko Sim. I believe Sik Ko Sim's kung fu is as...

Shaolinmaster: Give the guy a break. Sure he is advertising, but ain't no big deal to it. In fact his is of the low key natured advertising. Of course a master degree in martial arts usually mean a...

Sui,

huh? I turn my back? robt?? rolling-hand??

*shrugs*

Well, I shall turn my back too.....nuff said.

My fav is a southern dish of Hakka descent...

Yong Tou Fu

Sui,

Never claimed to be an expert or historian of chu gar or pak mei. Feel free to give your version.

How many forms? I don't know. Chu Gar is too vast to define how many forms. I never paid...

Sui,

I may not know the true history of either bak mei or spm but my main point is the names "Pak Mei Pai" and "Chu Gar Gao". Which one came first?

Lets not take this die-low/sai-low business...

tnwingchun

Agreed, wing chun does have the swallow/spit/float/sink concept which is emphasised more in some non Yip Man branch wing chun. Most southern arts have some form of it eg Hung Gar has...

Sui
Are you sure that pak mei is the die-low? Lets look at it from easily available data and not through secret transmissions or legends and the like. Chu gar as an art has been known to be around...