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this has been long overdue ; martial arts far too often develops in a reality vacuum , more than anything with regards to the claims people sometimes make about the subject matter

Thanks for all the (very quick!) responses.

I have been unable to verify any particular person or time that this Sutra is attributed to, which honestly makes me like it more.

currently at the...

Can someone tell me what this is? It is from this source:

http://www.woodenfish.org/images/heart%20sutra.pdf

Am i wrong to assume that this is the heart sutra? The reason i ask is because I...

Ok, I finally had some time to come back. So, Scott, you asked me a couple of questions that actually really touch on the primary focus of my practice for the past year or so. I will just go ahead...

Boy this topic really took off. On that note combined with the title of the thread, Paz, I suggest you reconsider whether there is need to speculate.

As for my comment about what preceded...

This may or may not be true; I am somewhat impartial as to who owns the IP here. However, you cannot say for certain. The source for "yogic practice", as I mean it here, is a Hindu text which...

Fascinating. Does anyone have any dates on the oldest known written occurrence of the
My hunch is that it probably started with Chan or more abstractly when the yogic practice met with Chinese...

I thought it would boil down to something like that. The translation of gongfu I normally come across is simply a man doing work. Given what you are saying, however, is it reasonable to assert that...

More specifically form. Is it a coincidence that the written word looks like a derivative of the words "ren" and "tian"?

David,

I've been reluctant to mention this text as it would have led me to a long tangent about the meaning of the Vajra, but it is exciting as hell that someone referred to it.

The two most...

Pork Chop,

This is an area of interest for me as well, although it is a lot harder to pin down these sorts of practices and their origins in Taoism. What I will say is that the martial arts...

A good place to begin is by distinguishing between Qi (as a concept in and of itself) and practices that involve Qi.

From what i have found, the term "qi" appears in writing about 300-500 B.C....

Paz,

I have heard this before, and i understand why people (in particular Buddhists) feel this way.

The problem is that there is no real certainty regarding when the relevant Yogic principles...

Scott,

I was referring to the source you listed; "The Record of the Buddhist Monasteries of Luoyang". The excerpt, when examined in the context of time and geography, is more likely the...

The first thing I would really like to address and that is the discrepancy of Bodhidharma being from Persia.

By no account, historical or otherwise, is this factual. The historical account linking...

Coming from Oklahoma's Martial Arts scene, i think this guy getting busted is AWESOME.

Now if they could just come mop up some of the fake mother****ers in OK, that would be awesome.

Good job...

I dunno, i agree with HSK about infiltrating them and all, i think you should certainly attack them with every ounce you possess (and i know you have ounces to go around, HSK =P)

But, they have a...

Grats on the good reviews Gene.

Im gonna have to pick up one of those too...

its a level of intensity we call "fighting"


other than that, i agree.

grats to ur dude, HSK. Its a huge responsibility to carry that kind of weight in legitimate martial arts circles. I wish I could say the same for some of the other "shaolin" i knew.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....

wait for it......






waaait.........

Is it as much by chance that this special category of monks exists in shaolin as it is by chance that the noble buddhist-yet-warrior shaolin monk image happens to be an extremely marketable and...

Should a Buddhist monk enjoy alcohol, meat, polygamy, fame and fortune? I guess thats a matter of, erm...perspective.

To me, it seems like the more we apologize for these guys or use the...

It was pleasant

Yea, those slideshows arent really meant for learning from, theyre more of a reference tool. thats why Doc dosent let ppl download them. that said, theyre still pretty interesting to look at.