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I can assure you mate that we don't play around. We spar with no protection and people get hurt. We have people watching on that can catch people of they fall and if somebody takes a clean shot to...

Ok.......

with boxing gloves on makes it difficult to use the correct punching strategy. The Man/wu position is very important and also punching from the correct wu sau position becomes harder. Wu...

Don't make me laugh mate! I'm on about sparring not chi sau.

Are you saying that I don't understand Chum Kiu!? Coming from you that has to be the funniest thing I've heard so far today....

Complete rubbish! I've been doing Ving Tsun for 17 years and I boxed as an amateur. I've also done my fair share of full and semi contact kick boxing and there is no way VT can work properly with...

Very very true.

When I first met PB I was literally shocked at the amount of stuff that was not in my other lineages. Whole parts were missing and had been misinterpreted. I showed him things that I had been taught...

No they didn't spend enough time learning and sparring hands knives and poles.

next question.

............not just Bayer though is it? It's all Bayers students that were also lucky enough the be taught by WSL. Can they all be wrong? Their Ving Tsun is all the same and they spent long periods...

I have sampled 4 different lineages of WSLVT. You can go on all day long about what you THINK the reason is for these differences but I actually know which makes your POV pretty pointless. You think...

...........................and relax :)

You must have done well at school. :)

His ideas are from Wong Shun Leung!

Yes converted from rubbish systems of Ving Tsun to a more functional and effective system by a guy who happens to be one of the best. If you want to call it a church then praise the lord!:D

lolololololol :D:D:D:D

So we think you are an idiot and you think we are. Great! That's fine. I accept that.

The thing is though that me and Kev (and T_Ray) have both moved on from thinking the same way you do. You...

Case re-opened.

Yes and he does this by first making arm contact. When the punch comes he seeks to make a bridge with it and then based on that initial contact he has a feel around and then...

Me and Kev are students of PB where as you are not. Don't you think that is a bit weird to say even PB is not using our ideas?

You are a good advertisment for WT :D

LMFAO

Now in order to prove your shoddy idea of VT you have brought the loch ness monster into the argument! Classic!:D

Correct but he seems to think he knows which is comical.

Ahhhhh BPWT has a fwwwwwiend! Ahhhhhhhhh :)

Silence? No just a bit pointless in discussing anything with people that haven't got a clue about Ving Tsun and believe in the "clown of kung fu"

Saying that TST isn't much better. :p

correction..........


correct Wing Tsun...............incorrect Ving Tsun lol

You must have a lot of time on your hands as well as incorrect Wing Tsun :D

Yes I'm arrogant and you're a c**t!

BTW you are making an idiot of yourself by putting my translation in your profile. To you it may come across as a pizz take but in fact it is the correct translation for Chum Kiu. Yours is Leung Ting...