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@WC1277

We obviously don't train the same system.

Didn't say anything is wrong with it. You can do whatever you want to do.

Chi-sau isn't fighting. Maybe to you. Why would you think that just because we don't throw hook punches in VT?



Slave of the style? You're a slave to it when you try to keep using it despite...

Viagramusti's WC works with boxing gloves because his WC punches like this ;) ;

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I do WSLVT. I'm not a PB student but while I've surely had points of disagreement with the PB guys here, by far I understand and agree with them on most things. What does that tell me?

There are...

Sigh. I've been trying to take this slowly with you... It's been difficult.

What you see is understood through the lens of LTWT. You have PB students who have learned under him and touched hands...

Well, let's see who's interpretation of kiu (bridge) makes sense, shall we?

1. Bridges (kiu) are paths to reach 'the other side'. In fighting they are most analogous to;

a) An attack line which...

It's not about that. They can say and do whatever they want. That's their system. Since you didn't understand my analogy, VT is not those arts. The only definition of kiu that matters in VT is the VT...

Hinduism, Jainism, and Buddhism are all Indian religions that grew up around each other. They each use the term 'karma', but its meaning is vastly different in Buddhism.

You are like the Hindu or...

@BPWT

To quote Gombrich; meanings are in sentences and not in words.

If you just have the term 'kiu' or 'bridge' there's no definite meaning in that. You can incorrectly interpret it or look at...

Great. :rolleyes:



You keep talking about when someone inevitably contacts your arm when you punch. I'm asking the opposite. Is that what you seek to do when someone punches at you? You seek...

The meaning of the term 'karma' in Hinduism or Jainism is different and irrelevant to its meaning in Buddhism.



When someone punches at you do you seek to connect with their arms?

I think your interpretation of Cham-kiu breaks down before you can even build it. I don't understand how you don't see the logic.

You make a physical connection with an opponent and call it a...

Reference to what?

The real problem with calling contact between arms a 'bridge' is that people tend to think once contact is made they should maintain it to then figure out how to cross there, not realizing it's not a...

There's a problem with calling this a bridge. A bridge is meant to facilitate your crossing of a river, not impede you. If you have to find some way around it, then it's not a bridge. It's an...

Not in the sense of catching it to control the opponent's energy based on sensory information gathered through contact. No. I don't 'bridge' as other lineages do.

I intersect their line with...

Well, first of all, kiu is not a verb. We don't do what you call 'bridging'.

The bridge is figurative. Trying to actually build a physical bridge between yourself and your opponent by connecting...

Have you not been reading my past few posts where I did just that?

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I like how he added your quote to his signature presumably to ridicule you for not knowing anything. Ironic, isn't it? lol

Yeah. Cham-kiu means 'bridge seeking' or 'seeking the bridge', but what that bridge is you've not understood. You've called an obstacle a bridge and don't even realize how little sense that makes.

So landing a punch is having crossed a bridge, an open attacking line.

When you punch and it is blocked, that is an obstacle preventing you from crossing.

How can that obstacle be called a...

No, that is a bridge crossed...

@BPWT;

Imagine you want to cross a river. Ideally you want to just go straight over the bridge. But you're just walking along the river bank where you can't cross. So you must search for the...

Doesn't sound familiar...



No PBVT reps in my country, so I can't say exactly what's going on. But I don't see him sticking in his clips. I see a heck of a lot of ballistic force, and listening...