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    Yeah well maybe youtube doesn't help, we must all...

    Yeah well maybe youtube doesn't help, we must all watch some video's of our own styles and cringe, I know I do, and I wouldn't want my own style to be judged on youtube footage
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    forums are meant to be arena's for people with...

    forums are meant to be arena's for people with various opinions can come together and discuss, rarely seems possible here, so many threads end with childish postering
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    the way you say correct me says it all, I...

    the way you say correct me says it all, I discuss, put a point accross that sort of thing but would I be so far up my own arrse to attempt to correct you nar, I don't know ya
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    This was my first and only point, I can see this...

    This was my first and only point, I can see this technique being effective in mma, combat sports, a bit of wushu but against a decent streetfighter,boxer, not a chance
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    right ok so we can't discuss that which we...

    right ok so we can't discuss that which we haven't fullfiled your idea of proficiancy in. end of forum.
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    I think I have enough experience of combat to...

    I think I have enough experience of combat to have formed my own opinion on these matters, I was, however attempting to show an air of politeness oft vacant on this forum
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    yeah good explanation I'll try my ****dest to...

    yeah good explanation I'll try my ****dest to keep an open mind, I think much comes down to body shape and mind set I come from a background of western boxing prior to kung fu and I prefer tight,...
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    Yeah I can accept that and you're right I've...

    Yeah I can accept that and you're right I've tried those styles and they're not for me so i'll not pretend to be knowledgeable in that area, it's just that coming from a background of styles that aim...
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    Hey you first, you'll see I had nothing of...

    Hey you first, you'll see I had nothing of detrement to say about chuck he's one of the best at what he does, I just have to admit that I really don't get those long techniques and i'm sure he'd be...
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    only in mma would you be caught with such a punch...

    only in mma would you be caught with such a punch anywhere else i'd be ashamed to be hit by such a long swinging punch
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    my apologies tao yin, maybe it was the way you...

    my apologies tao yin, maybe it was the way you began by calling lai see a ****head that cunningly diverted my reasoning away from the reallity that you were actually attempting to give him some of...
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    people in glass houses tao yin

    people in glass houses tao yin
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    yum cha, Thanks for the vid's, I'm very...

    yum cha,

    Thanks for the vid's, I'm very suprised tou have no screwdriver set in your class, I thought we all had that in our lineage.

    Any way there is far too few video's of pak mei being...
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    well I hope that I get to that age and retain...

    well I hope that I get to that age and retain that degree of energy, tell me, as someone who has no knowledge of that system is the main aim to attack each others fists
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    It occurs to me that if you learn sets the way...

    It occurs to me that if you learn sets the way I've been taught them, call it old school or if you like 'properly' I will have to live to see my 743'd birthday to have learned this many.
  16. how lucky you where to have such ability and...

    how lucky you where to have such ability and insight without practice and learning, does not kung fu mean that attained by hard effort.
  17. no not the lower abdomen breathing description...

    no not the lower abdomen breathing description far far from it. Absolutely nothing to do with the breathing teqncnique which is totally seperate. I rest my case.

    My only point in all of this was...
  18. Well one example would be where yandle explains...

    Well one example would be where yandle explains that in our techniques we drop at the abdomen whilst rising at the hip. I read this statement and thought,that's got to be impossible ha.Later when...
  19. find a good teacher as I did, it certainly is not...

    find a good teacher as I did, it certainly is not something that can be learned from a book or a video.
    Recently when I read Yandle's description of this I realised more than ever that I would...
  20. I would like to add that for anyone interested in...

    I would like to add that for anyone interested in a much better explanation of pak mei, as previously discussed in another thread , I recommend Robert Yandle@s book Pak Mei A Dedication
  21. I mean only to say that you could never...

    I mean only to say that you could never appreciate the essence of a style you hadn't practised by watching someone perform it. I'm sure the same is true of your own style.

    Youtube has some decent...
  22. My most sincere apologies. I was talking from the...

    My most sincere apologies. I was talking from the perspective of one having been well taught in both lung ying and pak mei but I bow down to the greater knowledge that can be gleaned from youtube.
  23. without getting too much into a debate pak mei is...

    without getting too much into a debate pak mei is no more right handed lung ying than it is right handed wing chun and it's certainly not that, the stance is different the intent is different and...
  24. Please tell me you've never trained in these...

    Please tell me you've never trained in these styles to be so mis-informed
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    just what I thought

    just what I thought
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