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  1. Tough to tell a difference...I have heard that...

    Tough to tell a difference...I have heard that the Machado side is a little more wrestling oriented. I've rolled with both and can't tell.

    Really, though, all the variation is from school to...
  2. Hmmm, who first... Braden: "...Croaker -...

    Hmmm, who first...


    Braden:

    "...Croaker - I'm not sure where you have been doing your research on the subject, but there is an abundance of research on acupuncture showing significant results....
  3. There are undoubtably elements in all folk...

    There are undoubtably elements in all folk medicines that contain effective methodologies. However, current medicine is based upon scientific principles that have stood the world in good stead for...
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    one of the best on-line resources for martial...

    one of the best on-line resources for martial artists is the strength and conditioning Q&A at mma.tv I believe that the moderators are college strength coaches, and an expert recognized by the IOC...
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    Nice post. I'd like to add a couple of things...

    Nice post. I'd like to add a couple of things from the standpoint of a Judo guy who has played MMA/Submission for the last five years.

    1) Please don't count on a throw ending a duel. There are...
  6. Umm, crowded bar, lots of friends...it takes a...

    Umm, crowded bar, lots of friends...it takes a real man to want to fight on the ground there.

    It takes a real smart man not to.
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    Back to worrying about what a modern MA is? Still...

    Back to worrying about what a modern MA is? Still feeling that sinking insecurity? Ignore major points, we'll talk about jargon, and then argue with endless cut and pastes whether to allow your...
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    ArrowFist If you did karate, did you have a...

    ArrowFist

    If you did karate, did you have a mullet? (oops, sorry, wrong thread)

    I think that with Pankration you two are talking about two different things. From my reading many years ago the...
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    Sorry about the Chemo, GDA, but look on the...

    Sorry about the Chemo, GDA, but look on the bright side: now you can get that death tattoo you always wanted. With a bare noggin and a killer tat you can now:

    --go into any Aryan Nations compound...
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    That may be, fanatic, but you gotta admit a lot...

    That may be, fanatic, but you gotta admit a lot of us look funny. More shaved heads and death tattoos than in an Aryan Nations bunkhouse.

    I think mullets are a karate thing


    TigerStyle, I...
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    This might sound wierd coming from an MMA-type...

    This might sound wierd coming from an MMA-type player...but I don't think that the simple ability to fight is what should make a grandmaster (If, really, ANYONE should be a grandmaster...but...
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    Not...going...to...press...link...please...god.......

    Not...going...to...press...link...please...god............weakening...NOOOO

    Whew: server down due to capacity problems.

    God loves me after all
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    Hey, SDriver While we're at this ESPN2 thingy:...

    Hey, SDriver

    While we're at this ESPN2 thingy: awhile ago I saw some sort of Karate 'forms' dance competition thingy put to music. It was even judged.

    Was this for real, or was this one of...
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    LOL: yep, the MMA community sems to be taken from...

    LOL: yep, the MMA community sems to be taken from a different demographic than the CMA side uses. It seems that the CMA'ers have a lot more professionals in their ranks. I remember one school was...
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    SevenStar Saw the clips: very, very similar...

    SevenStar

    Saw the clips: very, very similar (identical?) to various Judo throws, so it must be good ;). Hand set-ups are also reminiscient of some of the KF entries I learned years ago.

    Gee, I...
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    Just a couple of observations on the last few...

    Just a couple of observations on the last few posts:

    1) In my experience, people come into the martial arts with at least some idea that they are learning to defend themselves. All of the...
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    Thanks for the info, guys. For the record: I...

    Thanks for the info, guys. For the record: I learned Judo both as an Olympic style and as a MA, but you're right, it's mostly practiced in the Dojo's in it's IJF form. BJJ ( which I feel is a subset...
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    --------- As for ignorant, well, whatever...the...

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    As for ignorant, well, whatever...the company seems good here
    It gets better, you ain't seen nothing yet Too bad you couldn't see ralek and some of the others we've had.
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    LOL at arguing semantics rather than ideas. An...

    LOL at arguing semantics rather than ideas. An old but tried and true tactic, nonetheless. Better than having to argue the merits of the case?

    Modern/traditional is an accepted use with certain...
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    Thanks SevenStar You can be more specific if...

    Thanks SevenStar

    You can be more specific if you want...I have 23 years of Judo spread over my aching body ;) Judoinfo is a great site...been there lots. The 'neck surround' also exists in Judo,...
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    Attn: SevenStar

    Read you're comments on Shiao Chiao (probably mangled that spelling) on another thread. Since you seem familiar with it:

    I have heard that it uses similar footwork to Judo, but with a lot more...
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    LOL this is fun! Too much to rebut quickly, so...

    LOL this is fun! Too much to rebut quickly, so I'll give some generalities.

    First: modern MA's, as I have always heard them defined (and have used them here) are those which generally embrace the...
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    Yeah, I find this board to have a more...

    Yeah, I find this board to have a more interesting group: I'll probably camp here for awhile (and UG/OG). LOL at Jimmy23 and his SA busting...Jimmy's such a mild mannered guy on CK.

    Agreed on the...
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    Wow. Let me take this one at a time... Dezhen:...

    Wow. Let me take this one at a time...

    Dezhen: Reactionary = ultraconservative (in the context that I am using it). I am stating that the CMA practitioner is normally LESS likely to shange...
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    I joined this forum just because of this...

    I joined this forum just because of this thread...cool.

    ShaolinTiger, you hit it right on the head: the modern MA training method makes superior fighters, absolutely. Equally effective techniques...
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