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I still vote that the tattoed monk gets thrown out of SD, it's guys like him that represent the style in a bad way.

I was just at Barns nad Noble there are no books on SD idiot.

Citong Sifu the color red must be your trade mark or something, but i'm not sure if you realize trying to read some of your longer posts is like Chinese water torture:) I'm sure you have some good...

Thanks for the respect and much respect back to you, as I have said before SD is a huge organization and my commects are not directed to everyone.

I realize that a every organization has a few...

No offense taken Baqualin thanks for the compliment and I would love to meet you sometime.

As far as some of my comments please keep in mind that they are not directed to everyone, just certain...

I second that, I think that the Tattoed monkey boy is a discrace to his own system.

I vote that the SD people excomunicate this fool:mad:

OK now I know your just stupid, as I have said before research what nothing of what you say is written anywhere. Exploring the philosiphical and religious systems, WTF does that mean nothing I've...

When it comes to the Tattoedmonk boy I get the feeling that I might be arguing with a 12 year old based on his posts.

As for the Pancration thing it's not part of my Curriculim but it does...

What can I say I opened my first school when I was 17 years old and I still run several schools at the age of 40.

I don't claim to be master in every style but I have studied everyone of these...

When I said people that make Sh!t up as they go along I meant you. What would anyone gain from lying??? Sometimes a lying is perpetuated for so long that there is no turning back. And as far as...

Ok let me try to simplify the debate, Everything that you have stated I agree with. The problem is the SD guys that I have spoken to made ridiculous claims that are the opposite of what you just...

Ho yea that looks like it's gona be a hell of a good movie.

That was vey insightful thanks Xia.

I think we should turn this thread into a Pancration thread as much as I like Mythology I love History:)

Wow that is very interesting

Xia I'd have to say Touche, that's exactly what I was talking about EVIDENCE

"SD has much evidence" So then SHOW ME...

"Until recently ( 100 to 150 years ago) " wich is it 100 or 150 I can understand being a few years off but 50 years that's what I'm talking about your...

http://historical-pankration.com/

What are you a car sales man??:rolleyes: Read what I wrote since you took the time to type it out.

"I am astounded by how much evidence that is unearthed to...

Just curious, what does Citon Sifu mean ?? I mean the name not his comments.

That's a great web site Xia, It seems that Pankration was a complete MA systems.

I'm astounded by how much evidence that is unearthed to support the claims about one of the oldest fighting styles...

Actualy TJ yes youre right the style resembled Brazilian Jiu Jit su,, gay but effective and after the Greek empire it was perfected by the Romans. You know your Italian ancestors;)

Panckration is an ancient Greek MA system historicaly it was credited with the development of Greco Roman wrestling.

It's alway nice talking to you JP:)

Sorry for jumping in here so late my flash player wasn't working. Just to be objective after watching the SD vids I can see that it has a lot of Kung Fu influence but it's definately not traditional...

Sorry for jumping in here so late my flash player wasn't working. Just to be objective after watching the SD vids I can see that it has a lot of Kung Fu influence but it's definately not traditional...