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  1. Can you even call yourself Shaolin if you've not done a long sit?

    I'm posting this here because this thread popped when I searched Rinzai.
  2. The three treasures

    Anyone who is Buddhist has taken refuge in the three treasures. There's a lot of us. As for practicing Shaolin martial arts, part of the reason is to protect the three treasures. That is the...
  3. it's all shaolin...

    ...or at least, that's what some of the monks say. Shaolin is the grandpappy of all martial arts, at least according to legend, so anyone can claim lineage to some degree. But, and here's the rub,...
  4. The Mahabharata

    I've read it in chunks, probably not the whole thing, definately not end-to-end in one sitting, nor even one pass (but then I never read Journey to the West that way either, of the Bible for that...
  5. bodhisattva vs. lohan

    This gets a little sticky and is liable to confuse the uninitiated, but hopefully that confusion will inspire those confused to do a little more research on their own. Now as stated earlier by our...
  6. compassion

    The root word of compassion - passion - derives from the latin passio which actually means 'suffer'. It's archaic usage implyied physical suffering or martyrdom, specifically in reference to Jesus...
  7. hinduism to buddhism to zen

    You know, I spent time with studying with the Saddhus in Rishikesh and I felt there was this clear progression from the hindu aescetic tradition to Buddhism. It's the origin of Buddha's middle way. ...
  8. Thanks for the history lesson KL!

    One must always keep in mind that Buddhism began as a discipline just for monks - religious ascetics. It wasn't until later that laymen (non-monks) were permitted into the sangha. Mahayana was less...
  9. Actually, either do I...

    ...but I'd rather know Jill then Jack.
  10. A whack with a stick

    cdemarco has hit the nail on the head - or the student with the kyoshaku in our case! Here's the rub. Most martial artists will define Shaolin as disticnt from other stuyles of kung because of it's...
  11. chicken or egg

    Do martial artists become Zennists or do Zennists become martial artists? KL's probably right that for most martial artists, martial arts are a gateway to Zen, not the other way around. But if you...
  12. Chan vs. Soto, Rinzai and Zen

    Chan is the progenitor. The Soto and Rinzai schools of Zen originated from Chan and have picked up some variations over the course of time. But Chan is the Chinese way to say Zen (or Dhyana if you...
  13. The danger zone

    I won't argue that, but I stand by my point that mixing science and Chan is dangerous. Both are emphasize parsimony, and there's a baby/bathwater problem, which elicited my Kuanyin statement...
  14. Shaolin

    Shaolin Temple was in '82, and that really helped to rekindle Shaolin. As for monks in the temple, Songshan is a big mountain. Even today, many of the monks don't hang out at Shaolin, now because...
  15. Ford vs. Shaolin

    Sure, that simplification works, but we're not dealing with solitary unit like a car. We're dealing with a vast curriculum of teachings. Take something like Shaolin eagle claw - legend has it that...
  16. objectives and contradictions

    Thanks KL, I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed the 1, 2 & 3 problem.

    The objective argument is interesting. What is the objective of Shaolin? I'm sure our detractors would say...
  17. suckful? man, that sounds like a subtitle!

    cl: No disrespect to Sifu Meng or GM Gee, but lately, some of the HFY stuff has been pretty undecipherable by the general public. I don't think BL is alone in her comment on your post. I konw you...
  18. Brad & canglong

    b - The reason you can't figure out the arguement is because it's an argument about Chan (at least I think it is.) It reminds me of that old Chan parable: The initiates are watching a flag wave...
  19. I never tried Shaolin Sausage

    I remember all the kids would buy that Shaolin sausage whenever they had a little extra cash - their bodies were probably craving protein. It can in these little plastic tubes, kind of like a...
  20. What's in a name?

    It's all Shaolin, if you're going to put faith in the Bodhidharma legend. Where I draw my distinction is the lineage. Even the maligned Shaolin-do can stake a claim as long as they draw some...
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