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I don't think anyone is saying one is better than the other.

To find the real, true HARDCORE kungfu you need to do a lot of searching and travelling. A lot. I would really advise most people, if...

"You fight like you train, so you will use what you worked regardless of whether it's the street or ring."

But again, what works in the ring can often be worse for you out of the ring. how can...

Well, as I said before:

Ring fighting is pre-emptive, has rules;

Fighting is not pre-emptive and has no rules.

So how can the real skill of a fighter or their martial art be judged by what...

I am amazed at how many people in this forum judge arts by what they have seen in "competitions".

Let me just clarify: do you honestly, sincerely believe that people who train in martial arts...

Firstly Ralek, when a boxer trains, he doesn't just stand around punching all day long. He does sit-up, press-ups, skipping etc. Kungfu forms are no different to a boxer studying those drills. We...

ur lucky i had a shower first stickyhands... my hands were a bit sticky too (but not from training)

lol i am serious! once you reach high enough ranks in chin woo for example, you get invited to take part. it is called the Shaolin Temple Tournament, and it is held once every two years.

the...

you mean waxing a car doesn't help me on the street? Bugger, and I've been waxing cars for 20 years!

You guys are so easy to stir. EuropeanBoxer laid out bait and you all bit like little pirhanas!

Nice one EuropeanBoxer!

Final score:

EuropeanBoxer: laid bait

Everyone else: got fished......

I see a lot of "Grappling vs Boxing" and "Forms vs techniques" posts up here and I don't understand this way of thinking.

Why can a boxer not grapple, or a grappler not box? I thought fighting...

If you are living in Shanghai, you have access to one of the best longfist schools in China, that being the Shanghai Chin Woo school.

Wu Shu isn't the same in China as it is outside, not by a...

Exactly my point, and this is why I think kungfu is in such a sorry state. If we take a look at the entire spectrum of kungfu throughout the word, it's an absolute mess, with bits added and taken...

urgh tell me about it. that's why i reckon half the chinese masters laugh at us because i reckon every time we sit down to have tea with them, they spill out all their secrets but we wouldn't know...

Thank you that was excellent.

Would you know then of the Five Northern Tigers:

Gu Zuo-Chang
Won Lai-Shen (Pa-Gua Division)
Fu Chang-Song (Li Far spear)
Wong Shao-Chou (Tam Tui)
Li Shan-Wu

yeah, i didn't mean you personally, i was just saying that this is what many people do do.

i think you are absultely right in learning different styles, because no one thing has all the answers....

how do you do quotes?

"Isn't that the purpose of MA study, to overcome your limitations and be better tomorrow than today?"

Yes it is, but how is that acheived? Through patience, practise,...

yes exactly!

but in that case, you aren't really improving on wing chun itself, you are improvng on your own limitations, nothing to do with either t'ai chi or wing chun as kungfu.

But kungfu...

Laughing Cow

But that's the thing. As I said it is good to learn various styles that compliment, ba gua, hsing-i and t'ai chi are often practised together because they are complimentary.

your...

yeah, i should have, was writing lots to work things out for myself too ;)

It hard trying to express what I am trying to say...

Okay, what SLT has done is exactly what I am saying is good.

Let me explain:

The worst thing I think anyone can do in kungfu is have one...

Well, what you are saying about the TJQ is eactly the point I am making.

Has Sun Lu Tang himself stated that TJQ is a blend of Hsing-I and Ba Gua? From what you are saying, he has simply said he...

Does anyone know what happened to Huo Yuan Jia's "No trace style"?

As many people know, Huo Yuan Jia studied No Trace Style and opened up Chin Woo in 1909. However, Chin Woo doesn't actually...

joe doe,

I guess where I am coming from is that kungfu is art in every sense. It is about the srtist expressing something and then manifesting it into the world.

I understand that many styles...

forms are just meant to be like learning scales in music, or how the army learns to march. it gives you a foundation to work from, flow.

The practical techniques show you what the things in the...

I am talking mre about these arts that say thing like

"I have blended Shaolin, Karate and Aikido togather to create ShaoKaratikdo)"

In close collaboration the masters, yes, can exchange such...