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The Luohan 18 shou I practice is 18 movements, all of them imitating Luohan postures, very beautiful. A similar (but not identical) version is in the book by LiuZhenHai and WangXiQian. Of all this...

At this point I am convinced that XiaoLuohan and DaLuohan are not related. They share nothing really. There are several forms of XiaoLuohan, they are all very different to what I have seen of Da...

The Luohan Quan from Zhu Tian Xi looks pretty good, I don't think it was added, all the forms have Poetic repetition as though they should be done together, I think it is just another Luohan Quan.
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4 forms in this video!

We have Xiao luohan and Da luohan yi lo in the background and in the foreground I see (I think) San Lu, XinYi Luohan Quan first and then I don't know, maybe the 2nd or the...

Indeed,

I think the 'XiaoSiHui' references Luohan 18 shou in its GeJue (Poem). I think this may be why it is, by some people, referred to as a Luohan 18 shou (Unless this is a modern poem, which I...

In Shaolin Qing Long Chu hai Quan is pretty much extinct. Some villages around ZhengZhou still practice it. It was a form of Mogou village but died with some of the last masters 10 years ago or so....

Shemmati, I can save you a lot of time.

We covered a lot of this earlier in the thread.

I have actually learned many of these forms first hand.

Yi Lu Luohan, I have actually learned 4...

Ok,

When it comes to Da Luohan these are the three major varients;

1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfHRsGJqfg8 ------Refined Luohan

2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18xrEtJjUTI ...

Right, the naming could be indicative of the time period the set found its way into that sect.

Which means sets with a lot of names are likely to be old.

Haha, yeah, they are making us work!

I still have not identified the other Luohan Quans,

There were 15 quan pu on the Shaolin official website, the pictures were just for the first one. When I...

Ok!

On further analysis, this form, this new YiLu Luohan quan is

LZH Xiao Tong bei road 1 with a bit of extra.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUNB8KPVpe8

(Watch the first road)

Woha!!!!!!!!!!

This is gonna need some attention from all of us. I don't know what this is at first glance. Good catch Shemmati!!

I'm gonna think on it

Yes, exactly. Each line is literally the name of each posture. Wang Xiang Wo bing is lying down in a sleeping luohan like posture, Xian Ren Zhi Lu is double sword fingers stabbing, etc. etc.

Shemmati,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfHRsGJqfg8

This form, jin tong luohan, Da luohan, The most common luohan,

It is not an old form. It was created in the late 80's / early 90's era.
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The Poem LFJ found on some DengFeng website, it is on a few places.

It is in the book by LZH and WangXiGan. The unusual Luohan 18 shou from Xi Yuan pai.

Analysis;

轩辕跨虎征蚩尤 - Xuan Yuan Kua Hu Zheng Chi You

'The yellow emperor rides a tiger to search for the master of blacksmiths'

仙人指路莫发愁 - Xian Ren Zhi Lu Mo Fa Chou

'An immortal points the...

I have that book.

It covers

Shaolin Tan Tui, Da Luohan Quan (YiLu+), Guanchao Quan, Zhaoyang Quan Er Lu.

Not all 3 Zhaoyang sets, just part 2, though 3 exist + GuanChao which is often called...

Well, it is interesting....

I need to ask my Shi Ye more on Luohan when I get the chance.

He always told me that 36 was the perfect number of moves for a set incidentaly, which fits the LZH...

When it comes to Zhu Tian Xis Rou Quan I said that from the beginning, it is obvious by construction.

However,

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjQwODYwNjA=.html

Onthis video again, the Luohan...

Its all so confusing.

But were somewhere now.

We know the Luohan Shi Ba SHou

We know that LZH Luohan 1-6 probably represent a good portion of the Shaolin 18 Luohan Quan.

We know there is...

In this video

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzgxOTEyNjg0.html

Zhu Tian Xi talks a bit about Luohan quan, at 40:00 mark.

Thing Is LFJ I am not sure it is the same material.

I mean I know that Degen did teach a Yilu whcih is close to Tagous.

I also know that it is obvious to see that Zhang Shi Jies yi lu is the...

Great info Sal!

Is this book still extant?? [wu quan pu]

It would be convenient, but I think the Degen/ZhuTianXI Luohans may be a bit different. I think I have seen 5 of them though which may well be most, they are all very long.

My Xiao+Da Hong is also...

This one is explained. It is the standard one deyang does, albeit with a bit different Shen fa. It is essentially the same form. Xian Tian Luohan 18 shou, or Xiao Si hui. It makes sense because...