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Anon:

I am sorry if I offended you, but it may merely be ignorance on my part. Muay Thai is said to have very few techniques, yet is known to be effective. Perhaps this is true for Wing Chun as...

It's definitely a place to pay money... if nothing else.

Hey, I want to learn. I'm not saying I know anything.

What I heard was that Wing Chun has only 3 sets and lacks many of the useful techniques of other styles.

I also heard that one reason for...

The claim that Shyun's 8-step was successful in NHB competitions is not exactly true.

The person you are referring to is Joel Sutton. As far as I know, he's the ONLY person every to seriously...

Fong Ha, judging from his website: http://www.fongha.com/ici.htm doesn't emphasize the fighting aspects of his art... seems to focus on chi gung and tai chi as meditation... he does mention self...

I looked at Tat Mau Wong's school, and there are a few warning flags:

- They wear special uniforms.
- They have a "black belt" program
- They have a "masters program"

Maybe I'm deluded, but...

I tried checking out the White Dragon Kung Fu Academy's web site... it's gone. I then tried calling them at a number I found through a web search... the number is an answering machine with a young...

From what I've heard of Muay Thai, a big part of the training has to do with being hit a lot to develop toughness in the shins and forearms.

That's not the kind of training I really want to do. I...

That pantherfist site is kind of scary: it says nothing about what they teach or how much it costs, and you have to go through a dozen pages or so of self-promotion and abstruse controversy about...

Getting back to the topic, HopGar's school is rather expensive:

http://www.hopgar.com/courses/

$100 a month minimum, up to $350 a month for Chi Kung.

At that rate, they should be able to...

I'm looking for a real school in San Francisco.

By "real" I mean a school which:

- Teaches a real fighting style that is effective in real-life situations.
- Has sparring and lots of...

NorthernShaolin: thanks for the info

are you a student of his?

Yes, I've read that, thanks.

I was more interested in knowing if anyone's familiar with him as a sifu.

Is anyone familiar with Sifu Wong Jack Man (in San Francisco)?

Complete article at:

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/12/health/12HEAD.html

Excerpts:

NAIROBI, Kenya — As dawn breaks, Linnette Otieno leaves her small house on Nairobi's outskirts and walks...

the ****her in the above excerpt was "further" (spelled with an 'a'). The software apparently is set to recognise 'bad' words and get rid of them!

Complete article at:

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/12/health/12HEAD.html

Excerpts:

NAIROBI, Kenya — As dawn breaks, Linnette Otieno leaves her small house on Nairobi's outskirts and walks...

A copy / translation of that book would be an amazing asset to the world of martial arts!

I have heard that Shyun is now using the term "Shyun style kung fu", since that can clearly be copyrighted by him.

It also seems to be more descriptive of what he's actually teaching, based on...

With regard to copyright law:

- you can't copyright an 'obvious descriptive name'. For example, you can't copyright "tissue" but you can copyright "kleenex".

- "8-step praying mantis" is an...

So... 6-10 years before being able to really know any significant part of a system and being able to use it seems realistic?

I was hoping to be effective in 2-3 years!

Are all real martial arts this slow?

It seems as if from what you guys are saying, it would take about 10 years to become somewhat effective and proficient in any given style.

I want to remain fairly anonymous (it's an online thing), but I'm studying 8-Step Praying Mantis, and I'm a fairly new student.

I just get a little disheartened when I hear a 5 year student...

I'm curious about the levels in different systems.

It seems that in the system I'm studying, they don't actually teach any real sets for the first couple of years, and you don't spar for the...

I'm looking for some of the older mantis videos with Master Wei Hsiao Tang.

I understand they used to be online here and there, but I can't find them now.

I also have heard they're on...