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What we did was challenge your interpretation of the abstract of a single paper with a modest list of cites the entirety of which we could not read due to a paywall.

Considering that your...

I'm beginning to think we should redefine mental illness to mean any thread on Falun Gong that goes up on Kungfumanagzine.com

Epic.

That is all.

That isn't what it says - you are reading statements into it that just aren't there. I understand you think this demonstrates proof of your position.

The abstract does not. The article is hidden...

No, actually in other words: If you were probably 90% of the way to crazy anyway doing Qigong may precipitate an episode.

Now do you want to keep on having a civil conversation on this or, when...

Quote from the abstract - last line of the conclusion section of the abstract actually:

"Many so-called ‘Qigong-induced psychoses’ may be more appropriately labelled ‘Qigong-precipitated...

For the record your argument of "you're fat so STFU" is not only insulting it is also terribly childish. I'm done with you. We can talk again when you grow up.

David, I actually respect Jung.

But I think he'd be the first to admit what he was doing wasn't science. That's fine. Not everything has to be. I'd prefer claims of health risk to be grounded in...

Right, you do realize my brain didn't atrophy during that time. I still KNOW the things now that I KNEW then. I've just got out of shape.

At least I'm honest about it. How many people here could...

No, I'm willing to admit other people who don't believe in gods are usually also sane. :D

When somebody links in a memebase photo the conversation is officially dead.

Actually yes. And even when I started playing with the breating patterns and such I didn't go insane.

Which isn't perfect but does help to provide at least SOME validation to findings. It's better than going on the basis of "well this thing happened to this guy I know."

Right, because statistics isn't a science at all. :rolleyes:

Heavens no. They're almost as annoying a cult as the Falun Gong are! But that doesn't change the fact that classical psychiatry isn't strongly grounded in experimentation.

Sadly true. But at least other people are watching for it. ;)

I think you mean psychiatry. Lots of good science in psychology but, you are right, Freud was a hack who wouldn't understand the scientific method if it kicked him in the fork and Jung was more a...

Hooray for Scott R. Brown!

Razaunida I will only address this issue once and even that may be too much:

I don't give a ****'s diameter in a high wind what skin colour a person is. It has no bearing on the conversation...

I believe you may have deliberately misread what I said.

Way to go with the non-sequitur. When talking about a specific health effect of a specific activity some sort of non-anecdotal evidence is necessary. The health benefits of Qigong can be observed to...

That would be anecdotal. Non-anecdotal would mean demonstration of a statistically significant effect.

Does anybody have any non-anecdotal evidence of "Qigong induced psychosis"?

I seriously doubt it. That being said plenty of the cultic (rather than occult) practices of the Falun Gong, mentioned...

Don't you get it yet Juna?

None of us care about your moonie knockoff cult. None of us will be converted to your dubious cause. Listing a long list of legal actions including at least one...

Whoever did press the charges was a fool.

I don't think even an american court would be so bold as to try one foreigner for alleged crimes comitted upon another non-american while in another...