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    WZP looks good to me, but sorry guy b., I had no...

    WZP looks good to me, but sorry guy b., I had no idea you'd met and trained with my Sifu, Maday Norbert here in Central Europe. When did you meet him, to form this judgement?



    Yes, WZP's...
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    This is an interesting point/view. And it would...

    This is an interesting point/view. And it would certainly explain problems generations removed from Yip Man. But how does it explain those taught directly by Yip Man?

    Hawkins Cheung, Duncan Leung,...
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    Well, lap sau is an arm bridge, as is bong and...

    Well, lap sau is an arm bridge, as is bong and pak. But we've been there already :)

    But even from the videos alone it can be see PB is very fast, and has great coordination and timing.
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    Okay, so you tested. Okay, so even in a...

    Okay, so you tested.



    Okay, so even in a single post you confuse things.

    You are the sort of person who goes to find out, but you also not interested in anything else, based, by your own...
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    That may well be the case. So who studied with...

    That may well be the case. So who studied with WSL the longest? What did they write or record on the subject? So a comparison can be made between their understanding and others.



    That too might...
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    I would say that a fundamental misunderstanding...

    I would say that a fundamental misunderstanding would have been corrected in mere minutes - by WSL or by any teacher.

    But it does raise an interesting point. Maybe WSL taught his system the same...
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    No. I just keep trying with you, hoping to break...

    No. I just keep trying with you, hoping to break through :D



    Okay, but I'm interested in how you see this. If WZP and whomever else talk about redirecting force, but PB does not, how do you...
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    To be sure, there are differences. That's not a...

    To be sure, there are differences. That's not a problem, in my book.

    But what WZP mentions in that short video is very much in-line with LTWT. David Peterson recently wrote an article about...
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    So, basically, I think that if your VT doesn't...

    So, basically, I think that if your VT doesn't include ideas on how to: Redirect force,
    change direction, borrow force, etc, then your VT might be missing something.

    There's enough direct...
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    No need to explain again. But everyone thinks...

    No need to explain again. But everyone thinks they have the secret sauce. If you met a current student of Clive Potter and asked him if Clive teaches good, accurate, comprehensive WSL VT, he/she...
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    I understand, and I am not disagreeing. But you...

    I understand, and I am not disagreeing. But you can surely see the problem? If you listen to what Wang Zhi Peng says, and what David Peterson says, etc, and then you listen to what PB says... lots of...
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    :) Great. If you ever visit Wang Zhi Peng, please...

    :) Great. If you ever visit Wang Zhi Peng, please explain to him how what his is doing is wrong. You know, poo-poo it to his face. And then show him the error of his ways :) (but please don't forget...
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    Nope. :) But that's not the point I was making. ...

    Nope. :) But that's not the point I was making.

    Wang Zhi Peng talks about feeling force, changing force, borrowing force, etc, and then what you see him doing in relation to this on the dummy or...
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    I think the comments he makes on pushing and...

    I think the comments he makes on pushing and striking are good, but obvious. As is how you use the palm. Same thinking in most lineages, IMO.

    What was more interesting was this:

    Wang Zhi Peng...
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