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  1. Thread: The Pole

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    MMA gloves themselves provide only minimal...

    MMA gloves themselves provide only minimal padding (4oz) and so the padding doesn't take much off of the punch. What really protects your hand isn't so much the gloves as it is the the wrapping...
  2. Thread: The Pole

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    No, it's theoretical twaddle, and isn't what...

    No, it's theoretical twaddle, and isn't what really goes on. "Dissolve the idea" -- what a load of BS.



    That'a all complete ,theoretical nonsense. And is a perfect example of why people can't...
  3. Thread: The Pole

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    I never said that. The method is to join,...

    I never said that.

    The method is to join, cut-off the oppnent's offense, destroy his structure, deliver our weapons, all the while sticking to him (dap, jeet, chum, biu, chi). And, as the kuit...
  4. Thread: The Pole

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    I opened my eyes. WCK and fighting has...

    I opened my eyes.



    WCK and fighting has nothing to do with lines or moving them.



    That's theoretical twaddle. What is this nonsense about...
  5. Thread: The Pole

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    http://www.spring.org.uk/2007/10/how-and-why-we-li...

    http://www.spring.org.uk/2007/10/how-and-why-we-lie-to-ourselves.php
  6. Thread: The Pole

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    Who gives a sh1t what WSL "showed" Phillip Bayer?...

    Who gives a sh1t what WSL "showed" Phillip Bayer?

    The fundamentals of WCK are the fundamentals of WCK. All anyone can show anyone is the fundamentals. YOU apparently don't have them. If you...
  7. Thread: The Pole

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    Yes, my views are very different from his -- but...

    Yes, my views are very different from his -- but I can see his POV. Hell, at one time I thought very much like him.



    It's not a question of "intercepting displacement" first or not -- there...
  8. Thread: The Pole

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    Releasing more hot air, are we?

    Releasing more hot air, are we?
  9. Thread: The Pole

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    The point is that you don't know what you are...

    The point is that you don't know what you are tallking about. You only have a very superficial grasp of WCK and the pole. I haven't missed that.
  10. Thread: The Pole

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    Really? Hmmm. You tell me that I should get out...

    Really? Hmmm. You tell me that I should get out and see more (in a snide way, remember"cricket"?) and I point out that I've seen much, much more than you to rebut your remark. And this is your...
  11. Thread: The Pole

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    Why don't you tell us what you believe are the...

    Why don't you tell us what you believe are the main differences between the Yip Man, YKS, and Gu Lao pole sets?

    What? You don't know and haven't seen the YKS or Gu Lao pole sets? You don't know...
  12. Thread: The Pole

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    It's the people who never question what they are...

    It's the people who never question what they are doing, who never critically examine or think about what they do, who blindly accept the views of their "master", who they believe is "great" and has...
  13. Thread: The Pole

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    Actually, it's most WCK people who have"odd...

    Actually, it's most WCK people who have"odd ideas" about the pole -- because that is ALL they have: ideas. And where did these ideas come from? From people who can't fight with the pole!

    So we...
  14. Thread: The Pole

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    As I see it, "gwun mo leung heung" refers to...

    As I see it, "gwun mo leung heung" refers to making contact and staying in contact with the opponent's weapon/body/etc. -- which makes only one sound with the initial contact. That requires a fairly...
  15. Thread: The Pole

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    Because they are beginners -- and we often learn...

    Because they are beginners -- and we often learn in unrealistic environments, particularly when the realistic environment is chaotic.



    Are you serious? Why do people have "practice swings"? ...
  16. Thread: The Pole

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    You won't debunk anything. I never said...

    You won't debunk anything.



    I never said how you train a movement isn't important -- just that doing forms won't teach or develop mechanics. Hitting focus mitts, for example, is practicing the...
  17. Thread: The Pole

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    WCK is not "based on" the centerline. The...

    WCK is not "based on" the centerline. The centerline is a fiction. It is a heuristic for beginners. Same with heaven/man/earth, the gate theory, etc.

    But, if you never get passed that stage ....
  18. Thread: The Pole

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    What is this long bridge strength you speak of? ...

    What is this long bridge strength you speak of?



    That's a great theory. Only you won't be able to hit the hand or crush any bones with the tip.

    What is your plan B then?
  19. Thread: The Pole

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    Forms don't teach or train mechaincs -- they...

    Forms don't teach or train mechaincs -- they can't. Mechanics are learned and developed by doing the task itself. For example, you can't learn or develop how to correctly hit a tennis ball by a...
  20. Thread: The Pole

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    If you only want to hear Robert's view PM him. ...

    If you only want to hear Robert's view PM him.



    I doubt that. But, in any event, Robert and I are not very far apart in our approach to WCK.



    Of course you do. That is to be expected.
  21. Thread: The Pole

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    The form isn't application -- it really doesn't...

    The form isn't application -- it really doesn't matter how you do the form.
  22. Thread: The Pole

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    WCK's method is to control the opponent while...

    WCK's method is to control the opponent while striking him. How can that be a "linear" art? Or, are you talking about fighting with the pole?
  23. Thread: The Pole

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    Yes., that's what I have been talking about. ...

    Yes., that's what I have been talking about. It's not poking with the tip like a spear but striking with a swinging action.
  24. Thread: The Pole

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    Well, I don't understand -- the pole is just a...

    Well, I don't understand -- the pole is just a spear without a point! They could weigh the same.

    I am not saying that the thrust isn't still a possibility with a pole, just that it isn't the...
  25. Thread: The Pole

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    Yup. That form contains the bare points but...

    Yup. That form contains the bare points but over-emphasizes the "linear aspects" (not surprising since Yip used to teach the pole points with chopsticks while at a restaurant!). Other WCK pole...
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