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    Groundfighting

    I am not nearly as well-versed as many of you seem to be here with ground fighting. What I have learned of ground boxing seems to be in the following priority:

    1) Survive going to the ground and...
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    Qi Lu Zhai Yao Quan

    commoner,

    It is a matter of common knowledge among Meihua Tanglangquan practitioners that, though Jiang Hualong did not create a ground boxing form, Song Zide (mid 1800s-early 1900s), Jiang...
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    Mr. Canzonieri, The name Mizong, I have been...

    Mr. Canzonieri,

    The name Mizong, I have been told, came about because his style originally had the name Yan Qing Quan but his followers wanted to throw his government pursuers off the track so to...
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    "Shandong Shaolin"

    Thank you S.C. for your detailed answers and the wealth of information you provided.

    My own concern, (as if that amounts to anything). is that there is no information of any kind on there being...
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    Shaolin Temples

    I am no scholar on Shaolin Si but what I have always heard was that there were possible temples at Henan,, Fukien, Kwangtung, Wutang, O Mei Shan. What temples are you familar with in Shandong...
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    Song vs Ming Origin

    I am not as well versed as you guys and I must say that I appreciate the discussion, I am learning a lot.

    I thought Yan Qing and Lin Chong were both folk characters out of the novel Outlaws of the...
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    YM, Yes, as I stated in my post, I was noting...

    YM,

    Yes, as I stated in my post, I was noting that the name of the movement was called White Stork Spreads Wings in Taijimeihua Tanglangquan. Also as I said, I have no idea if the name is the same...
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    Clearer Distinction

    WM,

    It seems that there is a forumula to Mr. Blanco's listings then. CHun Ho Yin and Li Da Chong have the same listing. As Phillipman Chow does not, it would seem that, though he is definately a...
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    I think so...

    BBK,

    I think you are right. There are common origins, stories of exchanges between masters and stories of entire sets being adopted by different styles of Tanglangquan. For example, Meihua Lu...
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    Answer

    WM,

    I was emailed a link to Fernando Blanco's Mantis Cave, (guess I should have thought of that myself). It states that Sifu Chow was a student of WHF. I don't want to assume that the lack of...
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    Cha Chui Quan

    Judge Pen,

    As I have heard, Cha Chui Quan was created by Wang Rongsheng, (teacher of Master Fan Xudong). He lived from mid 1800's to early 1900's I think.

    For a video of this set, you can...
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    Graduate?

    Is Sifu Phillipman Chow a disciple, a graduate or a student of WHF who now teaches?

    Libingshao
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    7* / Meihua parallels

    WM,

    I have no idea if this relates. But it is my understanding that HK 7* has Meihua in it. So, perhaos this would be of interest...

    1st Zhaiyao, WHF book, movement 21 and 22 are called "white...
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    One I have heard of...

    Master Hon chiu-wong is alive, or at least last I heard he was. He was apparently a very senior student of Wong hon-fun and wrote a book on the last 100 years of Tanglangquan history that was...
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    Counterpoint?

    In "New Martial Hero Magazine" p.8, there is a note that arguements concerning the birthplace of Tanglagnquan had been solved and that Yantai was now accepted "officially" as the birthplace of...
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    Publish or Perish

    Mantis108,

    I think that this battle can be won by steadfastly teaching the art as NorthernShaolin has said. However, I also believe that research based publishing by reputable people can counter...
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    Quick Check Reveals...

    WM,

    I have one volume #3 that has sets in the back. I found the following in a quick glance:

    Cha Chui Quan Mvt.2 White Goose Opens Wings

    Bai Yuan Chu Dong Mvt. Lone Wild Goose Leaves Flock...
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    Will check!

    WM,

    I have a few of the WHF books. I will scan them for the poetic names. As others have said they arn't in most of the books but there are places that give some in either the name or the...
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    Somebody's got to know

    WM,

    Good question! In what tradition of Tanglangquan are you looking for the names? I have books on several and perhaps the names you are looking for could be there. OR...better yet...

    Maybe...
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    Agreed!

    Maxiaoyao,

    I am sorry for not being clear. My point was that while those names do exist in some styles of Tanglang such as Taiji, Taijimeihua, Qixing and Meihua, the poetic naming is absent for...
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    Naming Convention

    WM,

    There are the names in Chinese on several forms on MQ forums with translations, if you are Wong hon-fun Tanglang or Chiu chi-man. If you are Taiji Tanglang you are out of luck there. And those...
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    Ou Ji

    LOL!!!!

    :) Thanks for lightening things up!

    Libingshao
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    Origins

    Does anyone have information on the origin of Fanche Quan in Tanglangquan?

    Libingshao
  24. Thread: Gou Lou Cai

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    Both

    Oso,

    In my limited experience the twelve are both singular and paired. gou lou cai are three ideas but I have heard the three called cai shou for short and then again I have seen them expressed by...
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    Untaught Techniques

    -N-

    I can echo the "held back" techniques. The sifu I have known do not have written curriculum. You stay and you train and, over time, your sifu repeatedly reaches into his memory and experience...
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