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Dale is a 2nd degree BJJ blackbelt and original dog brother, he has posted clips of full contact MMA fights (glove and bare hand) and stick fights he has been in

to be fair he has posted clips of MMA fights and grappling matches showing him pulling stuff off

lol be nice every single beginner thinks this way....cant count the number of guys come to traiing and all they want to learn is subs....so you show them lots then roll and pin them for hours on...

not putting words into Dales mouth but he didnt say that, what he said was the knife changes your view of the conflict and how you react, suddenly trying controlling a single limb makes sense, but...

Really what makes them different, do you mean on the street you want to finish the fight as quickly as possible or in a grappling context you want to snap something and never want to go to the ground...

nope nope and nope, but keep trying :)


i seriously doubt you know any form of ground fighting judging by what you put above, lol bridging is just one aspect of escapes, its normal to switch and...

true and the other point is guys can tak a lot of punishment when they want to (much more than these guys will admit), friend of mine now fighting in the UFC won a match afterdislocating his knee, it...

i saw a friendly sparring match become a very nasty smashing when a guy who asked to spar tried to poke my coach in the eye and pull his hair whilst he was mounted(my coach trained with geoff...

I slinked off this thread after reading ronins replies (cant argue with anything that guy says) but I have to agree with you, I have lost count of the number of guys I have seen ask for a spar with...

i know thats hard, i was there myself for a long time, but common sense and simple logic must win out sometimes :)

That’s my conclusion too, so I think ill leave it there now: seeing as I have not only shot the horse, but also beat him with a baseball bat and run him over for good measure :o)

I was not going to reply because Ronin as always put it so well it pretty much finished the conversation, but I suppose I love beating a dead horse and I fundamentally disagree with your central...

Easy do what judo and BJJ guys do to prove what they do works…. enter a grappling comp or an MMA fight (both allow standing locks and submissions) and go for it, people entering comps accept there...

My point throughout has been that chin na as typically demonstrated and drilled is not effective/high percentage and that locks don’t work unless you have superiority of numbers or can limit their...

using that logic its all judo :D

you have to agree though that in chinese styles we see a lot of standing wrist, arm and shoulder locks, as shown in tim carmells and various other books that you...

if that logic worked then everything works :rolleyes: we could say hey mike tyson uses short range hooks so all short range styles work....fedor throws overhand rights so all long range styles work,...

what he said, come on dont post grappling or wrestling post real chin na, you know the stuff thats demo'd everywhere, it cant be that hard

Its a good opinion.....how many people have you seen use it in MMA?

Fact is in grappling you can set it up and go for it with very little risk, in MMA with punches coming in and (as you so it has...

Yep and for the most part the BJJ demos in the first clips sucked, it’s like he has watched clips but not actually trained., you throat grabs and neck crank were fun to watch.


And the straight...

can i ask who you posted this for? because it wasn't me i asked for actual chin na in action not another demo, please post it working in a real fight...not some badly done BJJ with half as@ed cr^p...

i can dream cant I :)

but some things are more hi percentage than others, throws are more high percentage than standing locks, hence you see them more, locks on the ground are seen more as well because they are more high...

where are these people? can you post links of them using their stuff against guys fighting back and hitting them, i ask because as someone who spent a decade researching testing and demoing various...

oh please stop with the radical ideas and common sense....... :D

nicely put :), as i said in previous posts you have to limit the opponents ability to move, everyone NOT trained properly in grappling looks at the finished position, but as you say its the control...