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Yep everone is different and if it works for you than that's the way you should train. I'm glad you found a place that works for you that is the most important at the end of the day

When I said useless I mean full on rolling If you take a top black belt brown belt etc and put them in against a white belt or blue belt at full speed most times the white or blue belt is going to...

Sorry to hear that Jake I've never been at a BJJ school. where the instructior did not roll or at least teach the beginners if anything they were more attentive to the beginners. Who are these...

Very Very interesting

Will Belts be awarded or trophys?

I'm sorry who is Cartmell?

Ok understood. i was a little confused as the poster i quoted also stated his instructor was scared to cross hands with him and Most camps I am at the fighters woudl never cross hands with the...

I do have to say this I don't know where the base for groundfighting in 8 step came from or where Shyun got it but he had it back before BJJ became popular in the U.S I was with him when UFC 1 came...

Maybe i'm behind becaust i dont' mantis anymore but crossing hands does that mean sparring or fighting. and are you saying that peopel would show up to your school with challenges? Also isnt that...

Yep on Sherdog my main forum my screen name is my real name so it's easier to post.

Jake no issues here I forgot there is so much controversy on this subject that there are alot of trolls. i'm so used to Sherdog where if i say i come from Cesar most people automatically know my...

I'm not sure if you are talking to me or what really means nothing? But if So my name is Daniel and i trained 8 step at 1405 Noriega with James Sun in the early 90's. Not sure what use my name is...

I would like to say the shyun could fight he may not have done it often but working with him back then he had incredible technique. Remember this comes from someone who has trained with some of the...

well it depends on how hard you are thinking of going i know many schools that have smokers with other schools in muay thai and boxing on a monthly basis with no fees etc i also know many schools...

The gun has equalized men for the last 150 years or so. Prior to that you had to fight hand to hand. If your "style" was ****, then by definition it would not have survived this long!!


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I ask you this you said a bad lie was spread about kin If this is so why did Kin try so hard to get back in the system after 20 years? you admired the things he said in his posts? what things? ...

traitor no traitior whatever may be it doesn't really matter. In all reality he said it himself he trained in the 80's he was on the 8step website for a couple weeks and then is off it. If he was...

Hi all:

clarification on the conditioning that has helped me.

When I trained we used to do 1000 punches each punch this really helped me both cardio and muscle wise. Not so much for getting...

Hello All:

my just a question on fighting ability. so we won't have to worry about any personal issues etc. I would like to know what you all think of the true fighting ability of 8 step. ...

Earthdragon:

I put sifu george lisak in because he was in a picture next to sifu Lou Sacharske but please don't get the wrong impression. I didn not mean to impy that geroge lisak is under any...

Grand master Chun-Fu Lin and his son Paul. Master Chun studied from 8 Step Praying Mantis Grand master Wei Hsiao Tang for over 31 years.
Sifu George Lisjak with 8 step Sifu Lou Sacharske. Sifu...

Dean: I am so glad you are here I know you know my two closest kung fu brothers One is Jim he trained with you in Buffalo he was a big guy in the airforce I believe wore glasses he trained with you...

commoner who is feuding i feel that we are all exchanging a good deal of information and filling in some blanks that alot of us had. I mean chaotic actually gave sifu haley the name of another 8...

Sifu Mak:

thank you for answering some lingering questions as always I am glad to have heard from both of you and Michael as there are always two sides to any story and I respect both sides.
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chaotic: Now i am confused no disrespect taken as I can understand you not wishing to know me personally but now I am beginning to get a little suspicious yes you have some old pictures of sifu's...