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    I enjoyed watching this video, thank you!

    I enjoyed watching this video, thank you!
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    That is just my opinion T.D.O, just my...

    That is just my opinion T.D.O, just my unverifiable opinion.
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    I can only speak as to the situation in the UK...

    I can only speak as to the situation in the UK and here our country is so awash with drugs that it has become the 'norm' for a great many people.
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    So I believe. You would be surprised at how rife...

    So I believe. You would be surprised at how rife such things are amongst certain wing chun lineages.
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    You are a little late to the party with your...

    You are a little late to the party with your post. After I pointed out that wing chun world was ripping off everythingwingchun, the respective parties were put in communication with one another and...
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    Is it controversial of me to say that one now has...

    Is it controversial of me to say that one now has an insight into where Mr Kwok gets his Pepsi from?
  7. Graham, you were proved wrong when it was shown,...

    Graham, you were proved wrong when it was shown, contrary to your assertions, that there are videos of PB using trips and sweeps to destabilize and floor people. I think my asking about how much time...
  8. Ah Graham, bless you! Actually Sihing73 did not...

    Ah Graham, bless you! Actually Sihing73 did not say that, the bit I place in bold that is. He said;



    'Develop' a throw. That is the key bit in that sentence. Look, you are placing yourself in...
  9. I very much agree with this point but think that...

    I very much agree with this point but think that it can be a two way process; that is having experience elsewhere, whether in classic TCMA functions or otherwise, can sometimes help show the way to...
  10. I am not unique in approaching wing chun like...

    I am not unique in approaching wing chun like that and whilst you agree amongst yourselves that throws, trips and sweeps are 'not there' or 'worth the time' to train, I have a different opinion.
  11. Thanks for these posts, they have indeed given me...

    Thanks for these posts, they have indeed given me pause for thought so sorry to Faux Newbie if I necessarily go off topic slightly.


    Upon reflection most of what you both say comes from a...
  12. A good post, thanks. On the bit I quote, now...

    A good post, thanks.

    On the bit I quote, now I might not be as experienced as some here but I've found other movements beyond gum sau to really help develop a throw or offset a person's balance...
  13. Well, Graham, I was not just referring to circle...

    Well, Graham, I was not just referring to circle stepping with respects to Bayer or what I do.

    I think the only way I would be convinced otherwise, that there are no sweeps or trips in his wing...
  14. Well, I was writting my post and linking to the...

    Well, I was writting my post and linking to the videos as you must have been doing yours. At one point my post was directly after Graham's then by the time I posted the second one, becasue I...
  15. Now this is the thing isn't it? I've not met PB,...

    Now this is the thing isn't it? I've not met PB, not heard him make a comment but there is a bit where when asked what he thought about cross training with say BJJ he said;



    So, given what I've...
  16. Another example, and one I really like, is the...

    Another example, and one I really like, is the one in this video at around the 40 second+ mark.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-NjPDwUA18
  17. Well maybe you have not seen them all. For...

    Well maybe you have not seen them all. For example in the video below at around the minute mark there is what looks like to me a sweep.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcWcy2NA1pk

    ~EDIT: I...
  18. I just made a comment based upon the videos I...

    I just made a comment based upon the videos I have seen on youtube where he uses, in conjunction with other things, his feet and legs to knock someone down. I can't comment on anything beyond that....
  19. I have seen them in the video clips of PB...

    I have seen them in the video clips of PB training. What do you mean by 'where are they in yours'? I can't answer for PB btw, so you will have to take it up with him if you want to direct your...
  20. I would reply that there are sweeps and trips in...

    I would reply that there are sweeps and trips in the wing chun system as I know it. I have seen many, including PB, use what I would call sweeps and trips.
  21. Are directing that question at Faux Newbie or...

    Are directing that question at Faux Newbie or myself?
  22. Hmmmm, I tend to find sweeps and trips are what I...

    Hmmmm, I tend to find sweeps and trips are what I find most useful but I am not sure if they are considered throws proper. As some of the sweeps and trips need you to load the opponents weight on a...
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    More comatose than a quick 30 winks it seems.

    More comatose than a quick 30 winks it seems.
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    I agree with most of what you say here....

    I agree with most of what you say here. Unfortunately there is always going to be some repetition in debate as and when new members come along. One way to get around this is to have stickies on...
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    Yeah, as antiquated as the written word itself....

    Yeah, as antiquated as the written word itself. BB and forum tech and the way people communicate online has not changed much. All that changes is who gets the majority of the audience and 'sells...
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