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Again my experience must be yours right? No you're being an azz.

This is simply the driving engine of WCK.. If you don't use the centerline then you are not doing WCK.

I walk the string.....

It is if you use it--and it's not if you toss it.

You can dissolve the idea and still use it.

But the idea is real, the tactics are real.. It is a mental tool, to explain an idea, yes an...

But then what happened? Assuming you do see his POV which I am not entirely sure you do.

Taking what "you think" he means, having failed to make it work and then dismissing what you *think* he...

If there are any two here that should work out together it's you two guys..

Kev and T..

Exact polar opposite and extreme views of the system IMO. Neither can see the POV of the other, or...

Yeah it gets mixed and matched..

My left hand is dominant but I use a standard left lead naturally.. Throw lefty bat righty.. :cool:

Do you do everything left handed? How about fighting lead?

Most lefties I know don't do everything lefty.. I sure don't...

No, you're a converted/conflicted Lefty.. Probably where she got it from.. :)

Welcome to the Lefty club..

Thanks Robert..

I see WCK expression/use more like a rapier than a katana..

But in any case I am sure you wouldn't say it doesn't matter how this form or any other form in WCK is done...

Well to him WCK is about control first.. So I guess T thinks the pole is for tying folks to it (safety first)...then you beat them up.

I know me too.. I am going to work on responding less to his BS.. He has some good points but then goes off the deep end at some point. Impossible to have any kind of meaningful discussion with...

Hi Drew..

Yes, same old, same old.. I see no point in covering old ground over and over again and typing for it's own sake.. Sadly others do, and do it over and over and over......

I don't have the time to debunk all of your slow pitch BS.


How you train a movement IS important.. Boxers train movements outside of real application all the time on a variety of devices,...

Right WCK is not based on the centerline.. Right, of course... And Robert agrees with this? Mmmm okidoki...

So then it doesn't matter how we do any form, right?

Training incorrect mechanics is fine..

Nothing in the classical training, is *application* is far as you are concerned so it doesn't matter...

1. Question was not directed at you..

2. I know what *you* think the art is..

3. I disagree with you..

4. I refer mainly to a linear expression of power release..

5. If you can't see...

Well you said earlier the "pole" was from the North... Is what you refer to above a Gwan?

Is the Gwan from the South?

Is the Gwan WCK uses heavier than a "real Gwan"..

Do you think the...

And you're equating that to the Gwan?

Do you think you could wield the Gwan like they do the "sticks" in the video?

Puleeeese..get real.

Agreed...

So the information itself is what should be judged or evaluated not where it came from...right??? :cool:;)