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Practicing on both sides will help in having a balanced structure. I am assuming that you have a good understanding of the empty hand forms-otherwise the...

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There are differences in pole forms and usage. There is no papacy in wing chun.

[QUOTE=LoneTiger108;1248077]... much of the differences of peoples pole/stick plays were discussed a few years back in another of my early threads... and to be honest after reading through it we all...

Since the thread is about the pole form and opinions are part of the forum game-fwiw

1. There are differences in principles between weng chun and wing chun -kwan work

2. Lee Sing' stick work as...

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To each his own.

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Whatever you may do- if the left hand comment is about ed's video you have jumped to wrong conclusions...we do the pole...

[QUOTE=LoneTiger108;1148301]Interesting mindset, and one of the reasons the whole Wing Chun family is fractured Joy.


((It's a fractious family-with good relatives, bad relatives, insiders,...

[QUOTE=LoneTiger108;1148277]First off I have to say that I do not have Samuel Kwoks version of the pole lol!! It's just a clip I found that I thought would be a good representation of the standard Ip...

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The form/set of Ip Man pole available to the public.

(("THE" form??!!! You have Kwok's version etc- he did not learn the pole from Ip man.))

Maybe you have a...

[QUOTE=LoneTiger108;1148132]Thanks for sharing Sean, I do understand what you're saying here and think this is one of the core reasons the rest of the 'form' was excluded by Ip Man. ...

[QUOTE=LoneTiger108;1147885]Not saying he disregarded it at all. Just minimized it down to suit the curriculum and teaching environment.

((Your opinion. What do you mean by minimization? When you...

[QUOTE=LoneTiger108;1147720]This is my point, although you are playiong with words Joy. Wing Chun is not governed by Ip Mans 'principles', they have been there all along. Ip Man simply disgarded many...

((Well-- there are opinions....))Joy

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I don't follow- but then I am not a Lee Sing guy.

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What is the whole truth?

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There is a family??? Gasp!!!!

Perhaps across the bored.

joy chaudhuri

The six and a half points are not necessarily related to six and a half motions, because there are more than six and a half possible motions and points in using the wing chun 8 foot pole.

joy...

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Phol- benny just repeated what he had heard. No harm in that. No one followed Ip Man 24/7...

[QUOTE=LoneTiger108;995324]Coming from a recent clip added to Youtube, you can see Lee Shing demonstrating the 'half pole' discussed previously in the thread...

Sadly i believe the VT pole is lost and if i were to believe my teacher who learnt from Lok Yiu and YM direct, there are less than a handfull of people alive that have actually been taught by people...

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Debate and discussion are different things---you really don't expect sensible discussion here- do you? Much of what...

So Ip Man may have only received a shorter version, and didn't condense it as I thought he may have.(Spencer D)
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Robert-Thanks... yes that's the one. He is weak and old at that stage- but still gives us an idea- simple and not flowery.

joy chaudhuri

Ip man had some key drills with the kwan...lots of details involved. He didnt seem to have a full "form". Ho Kam Ming knows Ip man's pole work and taught it to his best students. My sifu Augustine...

I don't know where to begin. The pole demo that I saw on the link that you provided- I can't relate to it from a martial standpoint. The way some of the demo participants were holding their poles-...