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Very sorry to hear that Frank. Thoughts and prayers to you and your family.

I should have elaborated on that. Only material CREATED there, Not material that was brought in from the outside and practiced.

I would disagree that they are worthless but that's not the point. All forms have their purpose. For me it is a cardio workout and leg/transition training.

I was not interested in forms to...

Ok so petty bickering aside, serious question time. In your opinions,what is the definitive "real shaolin" Only Song Shan? And yes I know this has been asked 1000 times, but I would like to hear...

Agreed, but the only way some of us could do that would be to learn from books or videos.... and we see how well that turns out. LOL My instructor has talked about reaching out and having others come...

It's funny. Most of the SD representation on here acknowledge the material is stolen or made up. Most also agree that the lineage is garbage. What is the point in continuing to beat that dead...

Oh Wow! Thanks so much for clearing that up for me. You win the Intarwebz!!!!

No problem at all. I figured out a long time ago the simple minded simply resort to name calling and sterotyping, then are the first ***** and whine if the same is directed at them. I will never...

It is indeed. I have wanted to mention it before but did not out of respect, but since you opened the door.... LOL

When KC states he is not from SD, merely trained it, take that to heart.
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As the one who stated he saw the light "so to speak" let me say this

First and foremost our school is completely independent of both The and Mullins. As soon as the scandal started, my instructor...

I remember a t-shirt that said "pain is just fear leaving the body" Training brings forth a lot of pain for me, so I cant have any fear right???

I'm still of the mindset there needs to be a full contact no holds barred brawl. Last man standing runs the system.

Care to enlighten us mushrooms?

I believe this new issue with the Soards is just the straw that broke the camel's back. Mullins was trying to remain loyal to his master, even through all of the lineage, lawsuit, make up material...

As I understand it yes. But will any of them really be starting their own style. My assumption is they will still teach all of the same material, under their own name. So are they truly a...

I'm curious as to how many new "grandmasters" will arise. This all should be quite entertaining.

That can't possibly be the real story. SD techniques cannot be effective enough to actually injure someone!!! :eek:

I was told the same thing. We still learned and practiced the technique, just...

Dont get me wrong, I supplement as best I can with video's and books. But nothing beats having an instructor to make corrections when needed and motivate when laziness takes over.

My school was...

When there is someone that is a "Real Shaolin" master in East TN. Not too many options around here. Although I am happy where I am, I would love to study a traditional style as well.

I would be interested to see a person from "traditional" style take one of the SD forms and perform it with what they believe to be proper flow and body mechanics.

Not from the stand point of...

Pricing and location are other major factors I have found with the "uninformed" consumer. They will gladly consume an inferior product if a) its cheaper and b) within a 5 min drive of their home.
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So thats where that ape crane set came from. ;)

海龙杖 Hǎi Lóng Zhàng Sea Dragon Cane

Indeed from the Shaolin Do curriculum.

Master Daniel has separated his school from both Shaolin Do and the Mullins family. I understand the hesitation to ask, being a new student and all, but he is very open and honest about this and...

I did that. But your mom was there and she was so strong, I had to leave in much humility