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  1. Sure, anyone who trains in a forms based art and...

    Sure, anyone who trains in a forms based art and with traditional wepons are getting more than just fighting application. Why learn a spear? Kwan Dao? Now there are correlations between...
  2. I think that I do train to know how to fight, but...

    I think that I do train to know how to fight, but it's certainly not the only thing that I'm training for.
  3. 9th drunk; Ippons and "street fighting" are...

    9th drunk; Ippons and "street fighting" are great. Learn to shorten you angles and that will help the techniques be more applicable against more controlled attacks.

    As far as multiple defense...
  4. Learn to read my posts; I said poor and...

    Learn to read my posts; I said poor and over-crowded. Native Americans were never really overcrowded. they stuck them on a reservation, sure, but there weren't a lot left to bump elbows.
    ...
  5. I'm not trying to be politically correct either. ...

    I'm not trying to be politically correct either. You are absolutely correct that the majority of inmates in jail are minorities (being black and Hispanic primarily). They also make up the majority...
  6. Crime follows poverty and over-population. Lots...

    Crime follows poverty and over-population. Lots of poor people in close quarters equals increased crimes (especially crimes against persons and property). There are plenty of "minority"...
  7. So because you're "just not seeing it" your...

    So because you're "just not seeing it" your skeptical? I think that crime statistics will vary so significantly from state to state, city to city and locale to locale, that you can't make ANY global...
  8. Yeah, I was wondering about that. I mean even if...

    Yeah, I was wondering about that. I mean even if crime has dropped despite an increase in population, that's a far cry from saying it has dropped because of (XYZ). I doubt any assumption could be...
  9. Do you have citations to data to support you...

    Do you have citations to data to support you assumptions?
  10. Nah, no one believes that GM The made up our hua;...

    Nah, no one believes that GM The made up our hua; they believe he learned it from a book or vid or something. :p

    And the marriage is well. I've been institutionalized.
  11. Yeah, like I said earlier, he did all the form...

    Yeah, like I said earlier, he did all the form other than the kip-up and the shoot-through. Impressive in that he was still doing things better than I ever could.

    Joe. Nice post. Welcome to the...
  12. Who said anything about seeking out fights? You...

    Who said anything about seeking out fights? You said more people get hurt training instead of a fight which is true because mroe people train then fight.

    Actually, I have goals. If you think...
  13. More people get injured in training then they do...

    More people get injured in training then they do in actual fights because more people train then they find themselves putting that training to the test in a live, non-sport, atmosphere. I do see...
  14. Depends on you and the other person, doesn't it? ...

    Depends on you and the other person, doesn't it? I'm sure a lot of stand up fighters thought that until Gracie came along. Prepare for all circumstances. Learn enough ground work to be able to...
  15. WTF? Why do you even care? 1) I don't like...

    WTF? Why do you even care? 1) I don't like Monkey, but it has some nice ground fighting applicaiton in it; 2) it's challenging; 3) it's fun.

    You know I may not be able to run a marathon when I'm...
  16. It's a nice little form, but its hard on the body...

    It's a nice little form, but its hard on the body as far as throwing your weight around. Kip-ups, shoots and drops throughout. I've never been a monkey fan myself.
  17. Well sh!t. I wasted $250 bucks! :mad: Back...

    Well sh!t. I wasted $250 bucks! :mad: Back tot he drawing board. . . . .
  18. Well Hua is not as old. It no doubt evolved from...

    Well Hua is not as old. It no doubt evolved from some of the older roots and become a more complete system of Long fist: incorporating more diversity in its techniques to compensate for other LF...
  19. Wow, you mean the people in China incorporated...

    Wow, you mean the people in China incorporated other styles into their own? :p

    And a manual may show a couple of techniques, but as your Pi Chuan example, there are thousands per move if you...
  20. And yet, you were making the distinction between...

    And yet, you were making the distinction between what is adavanced and what isnt'. What looks like long-fist and what doesn't.

    As far as being defensive. Guilty. SD is one of the most...
  21. Then you shouldn't speak of what you don't know. ...

    Then you shouldn't speak of what you don't know. Masterkiller and Brad both posted links that speak of the history and development of Hua that independent of the temple in Henen. Maybe, just maybe,...
  22. Maybe. I just think that you've made up you mind...

    Maybe. I just think that you've made up you mind and all of your thought comes from a place where then end is decided; SD is pointless. I suppose I'm guilty of the same, but I'll concede it's...
  23. Of course turning and grabbing is long-fist. ...

    Of course turning and grabbing is long-fist. That video is from a style that is 100% independent of SD. They are doing hua, which is long-fist, whether you recognize it or not. Why wouldn't...
  24. I would too, but that's not really the point. ...

    I would too, but that's not really the point. The point is if you learn long-fist, you don't just forget it. You can still use something that are beneficial from it. If it doesn't work for me,...
  25. I don't know. If I can still do it, why not? ...

    I don't know. If I can still do it, why not? It's better than not evading and getting hit.

    Plus, it's not like we consider Long-fist to be the capstone of SD. That happens after 5th and you...
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