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    You know what, you just go ahead and end up...

    You know what, you just go ahead and end up crippled, I'm not going there. I can and am recovering. I was layed up for 18 months doing nothing but back therapy, and maybe slowly playing with forms. I...
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    Hey Ryu! Go to hell, Poo-Poo Head! My back...

    Hey Ryu!

    Go to hell, Poo-Poo Head! My back hurts!"

    My back does NOT hurt, and you should know better than to go there with me! :mad:
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    RD: All you've got to do is stop in and train...

    RD:
    All you've got to do is stop in and train with one of your local college wrestling teams. You'll see what I mean by full tilt. They will let you try any of your deadly "rib crushing" takedowns....
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    Everybody I talked to always told me that you go...

    Everybody I talked to always told me that you go "full on" on the training equipment(bags, makiwara, etc) not on your partners

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    Yeah, that's what I was allways told too.


    Anyhuh, lets...
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    LC, Don't bother, he's delusional. If he was...

    LC,
    Don't bother, he's delusional. If he was really training "Full On" like he says, he'd be flat broke from all his hospital bills by now. He's doing the same damm thing we are, he just juices the...
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    Who'd thunk this thread would have covered so...

    Who'd thunk this thread would have covered so much ground?? :cool:
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    Now THAT'S Brutal!!! :p

    Now THAT'S Brutal!!! :p
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    I'll tell you what's sad. The arm chair experts...

    I'll tell you what's sad. The arm chair experts who know everything and think they are training hard or used to train hard before their current injury. The ones who when you do finally manage to get...
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    You want a technical explanation?? It's really...

    You want a technical explanation?? It's really too simple for you to understand. Basically when you see an arm is ripe for the breaking, you grab it, pull it, to over extend it, and simutaniously...
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    I dont understand this argument... Its going...

    I dont understand this argument... Its going nowhere. Grapplers, what you are doing would be considered "resistance training", or going against an opponent who doesnt let you do what you are trying. ...
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    Boy you guys are still bent that only MMA knows...

    Boy you guys are still bent that only MMA knows how to train aren't you.

    First off, I'm going to support Red Angel's opinon that there are breaks that happen instintaniously. Infact, I'm going to...
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    Yeah, I completely understand. it gets...

    Yeah, I completely understand. it gets frustrerating when people have these really bizzar perceptions of things. I just don't get how those guys seriously think they are the only ones who know how to...
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    just like RD saying that kungfu guys train more...

    just like RD saying that kungfu guys train more brutally then grapplers.

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    Acutally, I was just trying to point out MMA is not Brutal (When I wasn't making blatently redicuous, silly...
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    !00% and 100% you say ehy?? Tell me Mr. Knife...

    !00% and 100% you say ehy??

    Tell me Mr. Knife Fighter, how many times have you elbows been broken?? Once, twice 10 times, more??


    ahhh hhuh, that's what I thought.
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    What's the difference between what you do, and...

    What's the difference between what you do, and all the Chin Na stuff I've done over the years? Other than lying down? Twisting up a joint, and putting unatural presure aginst it's weakness is going...
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    As a lock is being applied, there are many...

    As a lock is being applied, there are many opportunities to escape before it is finished. An advanced submission guy can give you what you think is a locked in finishing hold and escape before you...
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    That I think I can recognize and be able to tap...

    That I think I can recognize and be able to tap in time to a submission being applied by someone who has less than one year's submission experience? Someone who doesn't even recognize that you can...
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    Brad :eek: I'm not really trolling, but...

    Brad :eek:


    I'm not really trolling, but I'm not *not* trolling either. I mean, I do have a point and all (that none of us are really all that Brutal as we think we are), but at the same time...
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    red5angel, excellent, despite my sillieness, and...

    red5angel,
    excellent, despite my sillieness, and my making blatently stupid comments and such, you've got what I'm trying to get across, good job!
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    Part of becomming an advanced grappler is...

    Part of becomming an advanced grappler is developing the ability to know when you are getting into the position to be finished by someone who is working at 100%. I guarantee I would see your...
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    Ralphie, Very well said!!!

    Ralphie,
    Very well said!!!
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    You're making horrible generalizations about both...

    You're making horrible generalizations about both the mindset and abilities of MMA fighters and practicioners, which are as diverse as any other subgroup.

    MMA guys make these generalizations...
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    Well, that's what these guys do! Most of them...

    Well, that's what these guys do! Most of them have horrible stand up skills. Thier forte's are on the ground.
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    MP, well said. However, if Kung Fu guys...

    MP, well said.

    However, if Kung Fu guys constantly training to pull techniques makes them useless, and ineffectual as far as MMA guys are concerned, then how is it training to pull techniques in...
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    MP, Unthought out? Hmmm, Ok going around saying...

    MP,
    Unthought out? Hmmm, Ok going around saying MMA is not Brutal might have been a bit off the edge (Although origianlly I was talking about the Ground work only because *Submissions* are the goal,...
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