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    Poll: I do not think there is any substantial...

    I do not think there is any substantial difference between what the brothers teach regarding Mantis and Tai Chi.
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    Poll: Sin The Screen Test

    Saw that years ago and had forgotten how awful the Tai Chi was. Later in the clip I think there was some Mantis or something. I had to turn it off before the Tai Chi finished.

    The Shaolin-Do...
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    Poll: It looks like Grooms and the Atlanta schools have...

    It looks like Grooms and the Atlanta schools have officially gone on their own. Sin The and Shaolin-Do are nowhere on their websites. It's my understanding that Grooms sent Sin The a letter...
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    Poll: Eric shows up at the seminars in Lexington. ...

    Eric shows up at the seminars in Lexington. Probably looking for more "investors"

    It's been about 20 years since he was really training. He looks more than a little porky.
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    Poll: There are nine 8th degrees and one 9th. If the...

    There are nine 8th degrees and one 9th. If the Soards split - or get thrown out - I would expect some super grand master title to pop up in Denver.

    As to the rest, only Leonard and Smith have...
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    Poll: Yes. The Atlanta schools may do whatever they...

    Yes. The Atlanta schools may do whatever they are going to do - but it's been about 10 years since Grooms was directly controlling Atlanta. If those schools still advertise themselves as connected...
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    Poll: Hopefully, whatever legal action might be pending...

    Hopefully, whatever legal action might be pending will finally produce some justice regarding the Soards.

    As far as what is happening with other 8th blacks - Grooms and Mullins are already gone. ...
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    Poll: Sin The knew all about the sex scandal - but...

    Sin The knew all about the sex scandal - but protected the Soards at costs.

    Only two of the 8th Degrees are not Kool-Aid drinkers and Kool-Aid sales people.

    Mullins and Grooms. - There is a...
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    Poll: Here is a simple way of looking at it. If Person...

    Here is a simple way of looking at it. If Person A learned Form X from a solid teacher, and Person B learned Form X from a book that exactly matches what the teacher does and Person C learns Form X...
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    Poll: He does not move very well. Stiff and awkward.

    He does not move very well. Stiff and awkward.
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    Poll: This guy is an idiot too. Him and Jake are good...

    This guy is an idiot too. Him and Jake are good buddies who have been poorly trained by the Soards - and know it. But they can't actually change anything - because it means admitting they where...
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    Poll: Good guess.

    Good guess.
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    Poll: I do too. I was taught the movements along...

    I do too.

    I was taught the movements along with a clear explanation of the 64 Rules and a good dose of logical analysis of body mechanics. There was never any discussion about doing like Sin...
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    Poll: I originally saw JRQ Ba Gua at a SD school. The...

    I originally saw JRQ Ba Gua at a SD school. The stepping was not up and down. The foot lifted only a couple of inches off the ground. The explanation from the 64 Rules was the one about “Rise the...
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    Poll: Had to still be a Bill Leonard situation. I just...

    Had to still be a Bill Leonard situation. I just can't see Mike Reid threatening you with violence.
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    Poll: I don't know if Joe has ever been in a real...

    I don't know if Joe has ever been in a real serious street fight. If he has, it's unlikely any witnesses would be posting here.

    Joe is a very intelligent, highly educated, level headed guy. My...
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    There is no question it makes sense to be able to...

    There is no question it makes sense to be able to grapple - standing and on the ground.

    There is also no question it is not where you want a street fight to go if at all possible.

    If the...
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    Poll: Exactly. Cooperative push hands has to give way...

    Exactly. Cooperative push hands has to give way to less and less cooperative push hands. Rules need to be eliminated as skill level increases - just like "regular" sparring.

    I thought in...
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    Poll: Bruce would destroy Joe or Bill - easily.

    Bruce would destroy Joe or Bill - easily.
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    Poll: Sean's list is not correct. Not because he lists...

    Sean's list is not correct. Not because he lists forms that Sin The might have actually learned from Ie Chang Ming. Because he only lists a small percentage.

    Everything on Sean's list...
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    Poll: I can’t believe we are still discussing this 5...

    I can’t believe we are still discussing this 5 Animal Form. HSK made the valid point that the 5-Animal Form he witnessed Jake mangling on YouTube clearly came from his lineage. There is no doubt...
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    Poll: You think his chain whip was "strong"?????? The...

    You think his chain whip was "strong"?????? The demo at 20 minutes in on the 1993 SD demo was vastly superior.

    You need to get out more. I have seen many, many, many more people that are way...
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    Poll: Are you asking why the chain whip demo about 20...

    Are you asking why the chain whip demo about 20 minutes in is so much better than the sorry exhibition by hsk's sifu?
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    Poll: Personally, I think Garry Mullins is the best...

    Personally, I think Garry Mullins is the best martial artist in SD.

    Years ago I “rolled” a little bit with Gary Grooms and he was the most explosive person I have ever seen. Even though Grooms...
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    Poll: But you both graduated and got your diplomas...

    But you both graduated and got your diplomas right?
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