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You don't "bother" with it. It's part of what happens with a RNC.



WTF are you talking about? Arterial chokes are the LESS dangerous ones and are the ones that are within the rules of sport.

You think those are hip throws?

Sorry, but I'm having trouble seeing how anyone can take you seriously with the junk examples you post.

You want to know why the judo guys gave you a hard time?...

Kind of ironic that the first picture shown there is of the elbow off to the side.

BTW, a good RNC is a combination of blood choke and air choke, as well as making your vertebrae in the neck feel...

I don't know why you insist on continuing to post less than workable, low percentage moves (unless you are trolling).

Stick to what you have experience with.

I don't know, although I do know he made it a point not to show the details of how he was doing it.

That being said, the point isn't how many other people can use it effectively, the point is wind...

Not indefensible, but definitely not this:


Oh, and BTW, it IS almost all he used to finish people with, both in grappling championships and MMA.

LOL... that's why little Nogera chocked out many of the worlds top grapplers with it over and over again when he was competing.

Apparently, you don't realize that Nogera developed this choke...

How dare you! Of course the 10 finger was a waste of time, because everyone knows that you simply can escape it because you have so much time until your oxygen runs out. :rolleyes:

The first three UFCs (which was known as NHB back then) were the same rulesets as the original Vale Tudo matches. Current MMA is a direct evolution of those early UFC's.

Brazilian Vale Tudo >>>...

Couldn't have been that high of a level. An air choke that is locked in won't be broken, so there is no "long enough." Generally, these are known as slow chokes and are pretty widely known to be...

So basically, when you said this:



You really meant that one of the guys who trains with you and was already trained in the ground game before he trained with went on his own to a local...

If you are responding to my post, it seems like you are the one who talks uninformed crap, considering the fact that I didn't say MMA was like Vale Tudo. I said it was a watered down version that has...

So it seems kind of disingenuous to call it the MMA of CMA.

Hmmm... all I can say is that you need to grapple with some higher level people if you've never felt a good choke that cuts off your ability to breath.

However, hip throws have a proven record of effectiveness. Wrist lock takedowns do not.

Which would naturally lead to another question: Why would the development stage include techniques that even the instructor had never seen work for real in a live setting?

Which of those fighters in those clips do you train?

Awesome. Congratulations to him.

Could you post the list of the upcoming grappling competitions and the divisions your team will be competing in?

Which would naturally lead to the question: Since you supposedly have guys going live against opponents in competitions, why are you not using footage of the techniques they are using in live...

Which would make it more along the lines of something like Muay Thai and less along the lines of MMA.

Fair enough.

So, if that's the case, why is a school of training that supposedly trains in a method akin to MMA competing something that is more related to something like Muay Thai rather than...

I'm confused. Originally you were saying combat Shuai Chiao was somehow different than something like Sanshou and that it was more like MMA (which would include continuous ground fighting). Those...

Are you are representative of "combat" Shuai Jiao?

Wind chokes are useless? Several police departments have banned their use among their officers because they were resulting in deaths.

The only way to test a system is to have full contact fights, which is pretty much what vale tudo/MMA is all about and is what makes it different from "combat" Shuai Jiao.