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We are on good hands,high on sugar they are though.

Ewallace,
Yeah,I know,we actually have COPS around here.
I understand your point,it seems that it often turns into a muscling session where the opponent is forced to ground in the end of the...

I think,generally speaking,if you can choose in any way then don´t go to ground at all.It seems that many sources treat this with this common view.That´s a terrible place to be against multiples or...

Speaking of kempo,shorinji kempo might do...
maybe.

BTW,check my reply at "reality" forum,thanks.