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Same one, I think this guy just copied the GD tape because it is exactly the same. Alot of his tapes look to be GD copies. Just buy a GD one on ebay for less.

Do you guys think that the primary reason for stance training is to strenghten the legs. I think that it is a result but the primary use is to build up ones will or ability to perform through pain.
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I have done some G.D. material in the past (2 semesters in college through their Kung Fu Club at Akron U). I have an uncle and cousin who both have studied under Allen. My father and other uncle have...

Very well said, the Chicoine/Allen relationship was one of bussiness and was ended quickly.

The martial arts Allen knows is to be blunt a half ass Shaolin version from Ong. The remaing material...

Grand Master Tung Sheng Ch'ang was born in 1908, the year of the Monkey, in Hopei Province in the northeastern section of China, long known for the great martial artists produced there. Of all the...

cjurakpt, to question Grandmaster Tung Sheng Ch'angs ability shows that you have no knowledge of this subject at all. Do some research, to question his abilitys then and now (if he was alive) is to...

I think you have to look at the forest through the trees with their stuff. Its a good way to find many different styles at one place and see if it intrests you. Then you can find a teacher in this...

JDK, sounds as if your representing the facts to present your own personal agenda. Just that some of the facts seem to be representing this. :confused:

Thank You Mr. Biggie, Dr. Wu was exactly the man I was thinking of especially because of the Tai Chi training. Just could not remember the name.

Was Master Ark Wong located in the Columbus area in the late 70's?

Thanks for sharing your stories guys, I just love this topic and about local martial artist for some reason.

If I find the book Ill let you guys know where. I'm gonna try I've been looking for...

Thats kind of what I was wondering, alot of people belive getting caught transporting someone elses drugs and them being out a lot of money makes for a conspiracy. Some dont think it was self...

Interesting, I didnt know Akrons M.A links were so deep and intertwined.



That is one thing I have heard about him, His M.A skill was not that great, but it didnt really need to be beacuse you...

Speaking of conspiracy theories there seems to a few about his predicament.

My family and freinds know of him through Hop Sing, Art of Desire, grew up with or were just freinds of him. I never...

If you dont mind me asking who is Adam Hsu, I know I have heard the name before but I dont know much about him.

My understanding by many people at the school at the time of the breakup is they left due to other reasons, but there is allways two sides of the story and will always be it just depends on what side...

Just recently Mirco Crocop TKO'ed someone with a knee kick.

The tapes are meant to make a profit, but more importantly to show people many differnt types of martial arts. Are GD masters of all of them? No. Allen is more about Quanity than Quality in this...

Yea I got that.




If some one does speak up. P.M me

I would love to talk to a Green Dragon Student!!! Please P.M me if you are one

For what its worth Allens teacher was Feeman Ong, Ong's son has a school in Barberton, Oh. I havent seen many of their tapes but the saying Student of many, Master on none comes to mind from the...

Oh no!! not the muscle and tendon topic again :D

Still takes forever for your catalouge to come. I'm almost on my 3rd month now.