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i've heard the same thing. they have even said he's a great guy in person too. just he believes that he can kill goats from a distance.

I can only judge based on what I've seen:

A Bak Mei tape that looks nothing like Bak Mei, no Bak Mei principles, kinda stupid applications.

A Baji tape that, well wasn't Baji.

A Shuai Chiao...

I think you need to ask 'functional' for what?

RD - you are referring to 'refined' strength - KF - is talking about using it in a fight. (I think, based on his previous posts)

If you really...

No drive by. One the tools from ohio kept writing snotty letters to IKf, and when they could not win with logic or facts, they resort to 'my teacher knows your teacher. His only claim to fame is big...

Based on the tapes I've seen of other stuff, it seems unlikely that they could perform S. Mantis - the mechanics are very different from how the GD guys move.

Now in true GD practice, I expect them to toss insults at my teacher telling me they did not know anything... :rolleyes:

Response to Iron Weasal:

where did I learn Bak mei?

I learned Bak Mei Wu Dip Sau from 'Uncle' Jack Moy in schaumberg IL. Never finished the system, but worked South Mantis (Chu Gar) with...

"That's where the internal strength sets & herbs come in."

Now if that doesn't sound like OYD, I don't know what does. But you guys don'y s@ck as much as the OYD, and you definitely don't know Bak...

This iis all fine and good - but it does not change the fact that many of the forms and thier applications as demonstrated by Green Dragon are so far removed from the actual (and functional) versions...

When did Chicoine first open his p0rn shop? Inquiring minds want to know.

Reading comprehension is still an issue, eh?

"As far as fundamentals of the originating system, I'm not familiar enough with those systems to identify the missing elements that you mention"

Exactly. And you never will be if you chase the...

A better question would be "Why do you think they are?"

The following videos I have seen are so far removed from the system the form comes from, that they are virtually unrecognizable as:

Baji...