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Okay, that's great. Ong did this, Chang did that ... who the hell cares what any of them did.

What do YOU do? What do YOU offer? How effective is YOUR stuff? All this talk of old masters is kindof...

This discussion is really starting to heat up. LOL

Hey, anybody know about those Shuai Chiao guys up in Salem, NY? I ran into their school in upper Westchester a long time ago. They seemed to...

Anyways, if you're looking for KF tapes, I personally would recommend Wing Lam's over these. Because a) He does the stuff b) He doesn't talk on and on. Chicoine and Allen seem to talk way too much. I...

I don't know what to say except that I have some GD studios tapes -- I thought I threw them out but in fact I put them in a bag in my garage.

a) That guy Allen just talks way too much. and b) Yes...

For the last fricking time ... Green Dragon does everything necessary to make their Kung Fu women look BETTER. They puff out the chest, enhancing the display of the bust. They stick out the butt,...

Correct me if I'm wrong but it sounded like he was saying MMA players do this and not KF.

Not being Hakka I don't think I'm the best person to explain anything Hakka to him.

No, through heated discussion with Lonnie, the guy in black on page 4, I think, about their sticking their butts out.

You want someplace that AGREES with your premise, here it is. The ONLY place...

I dunno what to say Iron Weasel. If you want to stuck out your butt there's one school where they practice it.

They call their school 'vertical force' or something, so it sounds right up your...

Ask somebody to explain to you hakka's sink float spit whatever. I don't do hakka but somebody on here must.

He has a point, though. A lot of you see the apps in the dog style video or this mantis stuff and from your comments a lot of you, it sounds like you're seeing it for the first time.

Well, why is...

I can't believe we're arguing about this. Doing forms is not deadlifting.

I don't really like the cross and inside techniques there because they seem to leave the user pretty open, but those seem to be pretty standard techniques.

Well it's just interesting that you call it a pretend fighters deadly technique when it's one of the most commonly used non-hand sport fighting techniques, at least from UFC and kickboxing.
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There's a TKO with Dan Severn where he couldn't continue the match from just such a kick in a UFC match. Can't remember who kicked him, though.

Knifefighter you think those techniques on those videos are fake? Some chick beating up on a guy?

Bottomline is when I bought a couple of those, I put them in the VCR. It was obvious in about 10...

Okay, well that position as you put it just happens to enhance what bust the female performers are showing, as well as make their butts look bigger.

I thought that was the point of the tapes. You...

I had a few of their videos that I bought off of EBay, but I tossed them. I don't really think they are useful. The apps they had were pretty okay, I guess, but not something I'd really want to...

Bottom line about Green Dragon studios is ... why do you want to learn off of videos anyway?

Do you really think you can get forms off of videos, without the instruction of a live teacher and...