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    Wenshu is a girl?

    Wenshu is a girl?
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    You think it is not in our nature to invent tools...

    Yea let's all run nekkid in the forest. Just make sure bawang isn't behind you. :eek:[/QUOTE]

    You think it is not in our nature to invent tools to better perform tasks? Even our ape cousins do...
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    If you're merely answering a personal question in...

    If you're merely answering a personal question in one of those ways, then it's not preaching or forcing an idea, unless you start going on into why your choice is the right one or why eating meat is...
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    Are these misleading? Is this a misuse of the...

    Are these misleading? Is this a misuse of the words? Is it a blatant lie or are their meanings not still what the dictionary says?

    I haven't seen anyone give an example of how these are...
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    I have never seen anyone "proselytize" about...

    I have never seen anyone "proselytize" about eating meat on any platform if not in response to the proselytization of overzealous vegans/vegetarians telling them they shouldn't eat meat.

    For...
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    Artificial and natural by definition are mutually...

    Artificial and natural by definition are mutually opposed.

    Whoever said that doesn't understand what these words mean.



    Whether being primitive is positive or negative in each case, none of...
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    Doesn't matter. The dictionary definition is:...

    Doesn't matter. The dictionary definition is: Relating to, denoting, or preserving the character of "an early stage in the evolutionary or historical development of something".

    If that is...
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    For Christians, it depends on which verses from...

    For Christians, it depends on which verses from the same text you want to follow.

    For Buddhists, it depends on the texts from which sect you want to follow.
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    Don't just reduce the whole thing to semantics....

    Don't just reduce the whole thing to semantics. What ambiguity is there in "natural" and "primitive"? It's not about what they mean but what qualifies as natural or primitive.

    Natural: Occurring...
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    Above instinct you might say, not nature. Both...

    Above instinct you might say, not nature. Both instinct and intellect are natural.



    I also disagree with that argument, but because we can't really change our nature, although we can use and...
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    You're also being selective when you call...

    You're also being selective when you call something you don't like "unnatural". The industrialized meat industry is just as natural as living in houses for modern humans. We have evolved to be able...
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    Let's not forget how ridiculous it got early on...

    Let's not forget how ridiculous it got early on in this thread, when it was stated by the Wu Gulun followers that vegetarianism is a requirement for spiritual enlightenment and reaching the highest...
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    The speaker of course didn't make mention of it,...

    The speaker of course didn't make mention of it, but if you stop and read the text in the video it says the study was among "Seventh Day Adventist Adults". Did you not catch that?

    You say there...
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    Of my now 64 posts on 23 pages in this thread, 1...

    Of my now 64 posts on 23 pages in this thread, 1 quoted a sūtra and 1 quoted a śāstra, which happened over the last couple pages only.

    You don't even know what's going on in this thread, because...
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    My issue with his statement is not that, but more...

    My issue with his statement is not that, but more the "the whole point of Chan" part. Hopefully it was just some sort of hyperbole.
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    You did say my comments "do not demonstrate any...

    You did say my comments "do not demonstrate any independent thought or insight apart from the Sutras" and that I have "not argued against your point".

    Sounds like you are choosing my position for...
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    Why are you trying to get me to "demonstrate...

    Why are you trying to get me to "demonstrate independent thought or insight" to "argue against your point"?

    I'm clarifying that my statement implies what you are dragging out. Argue with yourself...
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    That's tired... but "nonetheless" means, as...

    That's tired... but "nonetheless" means, as Śākyamuni Buddha instructed in the Diamond Sutra;

    "Here, Subhuti, someone who has set out in the vehicle of a Bodhisattva should produce a thought in...
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    If you think that's the whole point, you'll...

    If you think that's the whole point, you'll probably die of asphyxiation.
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    Ironically, Yogācāra teachings say the same...

    Ironically, Yogācāra teachings say the same thing!



    Yeah, yeah... but nonetheless....
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    That wouldn't be the whole point though, would...

    That wouldn't be the whole point though, would it, putting on your own oxygen mask?
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    Uh, I'm not sure, but I think he meant "the...

    That's a pretty selfish form of Chan.[/QUOTE]If you can't iron, you can't help people.[/QUOTE]

    Uh, I'm not sure, but I think he meant "the irony". The irony being that in his view Yogācāra is a...
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    You should be familiar at least then that dhyāna...

    You should be familiar at least then that dhyāna comes from the root dhyāi which means "to think of", "contemplate", or "meditate". It is sometimes used in reference to samādhi but is synonymous with...
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    No idea what you're talking about. Again,...

    No idea what you're talking about.



    Again, it's unclear what you're saying here, and I never said I reject the Laṅkāvatāra Sūtra because it was written by Chinese. I simply don't agree that it...
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    That's a pretty selfish form of Chan.

    That's a pretty selfish form of Chan.
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