Karate

**Leto** · 03-05-2003, 07:53 AM

CheeseDog...where did you learn Tomari Te? I didn't think there was anyone teaching that branch alone anymore. I know it had been incorporated into some shorin ryu styles with Shuri te...like Matsubayashi ryu has several forms that were pratciced in Tomari. Unfortunately I am not near Kentucky, but thanks anyway. I might try to pick it up from Nagamine Sensei's book, and an mpeg I've got from someone in my branch...but it's a pretty long kata. Nothing like having someone to correct you.

**'MegaPoint** · 03-06-2003, 03:35 AM

Matsubayashi Ryu uses the Chatan Yara Version of Kusanku. This is one of the original forms of Kusanku. Those of Chibana Ha (Chibana's School) like Kobayashi Ryu and of Matsumura Ha (Matsumura Seito) use the Kusanku Sho and Dai forms. Two different kata instead of one. In addition, Matsumura Shorin also teaches Kusanku Mei, a very old form of Kusanku. Motobu Ryu utilizes Shiho Kusanku, a different kata altogether. Kusanku has everything from tuite (grappling) to flying kicks. Very good bunkai to be gleaned.

There is a lot of bad karate out there. then again, there is a lot of mediocre and substandard stuff in all facets of life. If you find a good and reasonable Sensei stick with them no matter what style you take. Karate is a beautiful tradition.

**Cheese Dog** · 03-07-2003, 12:39 AM

Leto;

The style I study is headed by George Dillman, who claims to have learned Tomari-te in Okinawa. Personally I don't know, most of the history books only talk about Naha-te and Shuri-te, with Tomari-te pretty much disappearing in modern times. I really don't much care WHAT he calls it, I like Ryukyu Kempo and find it works for me very well.

I'm not sure of the lineage of the version of Kusanku I was taught, but 'Mega Point is quite right about one thing--VERY good bunkai! My instructor and I went through the kata a few weeks ago trying to find all of the neck-breaks. Good times...

**jun_erh** · 03-12-2003, 04:00 PM

I didn't realize it was a legitamte martial art till I saw thing about it on Discovery channel. It was this fat guy wh taught a class, then he went to his teacher and gt his ass kicked. The Karate schools near me (suburbs USA) seem more like day care centers than anything else.

**Surferdude** · 03-13-2003, 03:31 PM

Sadly some are

they don't teach very well, makes me mad when that happens!!!

But my scholl is very good, part of the ISKF (International Shotokan Karate Federation) and the JKA (Japan Karate Association) (sp)
I love it!!!

**ShaolinTiger00** · 03-31-2003, 04:40 PM

http://66.199.179.250/bk.wmv

**dezhen2001** · 03-31-2003, 04:43 PM

LOL

dawood

**joedoe** · 03-31-2003, 04:59 PM

LOL. That is so funny

**dezhen2001** · 03-31-2003, 05:54 PM

its actually pretty funny how close to reality that is - at least here in the West Midlands

dawood

**joedoe** · 03-31-2003, 06:06 PM

I figured it was closer to how fighting goes down in England - the classic move was the headbutt. Such a signature move

**dezhen2001** · 03-31-2003, 06:08 PM

and not forgetting the good old football kick on the ground

dawood

**shaolin kungfu** · 03-31-2003, 06:19 PM

That was hillarious!!

**ArrowFists** · 03-31-2003, 06:26 PM

LoL, that was pretty good. Those Brits are crazy.

**dezhen2001** · 03-31-2003, 06:45 PM

now u know why tokyo riot police were out in full battle gear for the world cup - imagine facing 100 drunk guys like that

dawood

**LEGEND** · 03-31-2003, 06:57 PM

Looks like his students were French-asians.

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